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Interstellar_Explorer

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Hey guys,

I need help on choosing between two telescopes!

I live in a kinda poor country (Greece)

And don't have the money for telescopes over 80 euros...

I just came across two telescopes online, This One: https://www.bresser.de/en/Astronomy/Telescopes/NATIONAL-GEOGRAPHIC-50-600-AZ-Telescope.html

and this one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Seben-700-76-Reflector-Telescope-Scope-Astronomy-Astronomical/330401482786?epid=1582303130&hash=item4ced768822:g:oTcAAOSw2gxYnFSJ

But before calling me blind, I just want to say that I have seen many threads saying that Seben is bad, For telescopes OVER 200 euros, pounds whatever.

 

Thanks For Reading My Post!

 

 

Any Help Would Be Highly Appreciated! :D

 

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Stu

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Welcome to the forum :)

Astronomy can be very tough on a tight budget, but have you considered a pair of binoculars rather than a scope? You could get a reasonable pair for 80 euros which would probably be much more enjoyable than a poor scope on a wobbly mount.

This is a great offer if FLO ship to Greece!

https://www.firstlightoptics.com/observation-binoculars/opticron-oregon-observation-70mm-binoculars.html

If you do want a scope, then something like this would be well worth considering rather than the two you linked to.

https://www.firstlightoptics.com/beginner-telescopes/celestron-firstscope-76mm-telescope.html

https://www.firstlightoptics.com/beginner-telescopes.html

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Hello and welcome to SGL, it is often difficult to recommend budget telescopes but there are a few around, my choice would be this one which is available from several manufacturers like Celestron and Skywatcher.

https://www.firstlightoptics.com/beginner-telescopes/celestron-firstscope-76mm-telescope.html

https://www.firstlightoptics.com/heritage/skywatcher-heritage-76-mini-dobsonian.html

I am sure others will be around to offer alternatives.

Alan

P.S. Looks like Stu beat me to it.

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The 2 choices you have made are at best suited for observing Octopus at the bottom of the Aegean.

The first 2 post have excellent advice.

Go for one of them or wait a while, save some more money and get something that is going to give you a lot of pleasure over the years

 

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I am still kinda new at this hobby, like you. If the night sky where you will be observing from is Bortle 5 or better, get the Celestron Comtron 7x50. Recently I was out at campground with Bortle 4 skies. My 7x50 did great with bright deep space objects. The wide angle allowed me to observe 2 DSO at the some time. The Cometron 7x50 are around $30 Euros. Get the Amazon 60 inch basic tripod/mount, which is less than 30 Euros. These binoculars are great on the moon, but not the planets. Buy from Amazon.

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To help with those binoculars suggested why not sign up to the free monthly newsletter on binocularsky.com to find out what to look at. You'll still have the satisfaction of finding stuff and knowing what it was you saw. If there is a club nearby that would probably add a chance to telescope observe occasionally using a much bigger telescope.

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Ben the Ignorant

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For that budget you have the choice between several good 10x50's but no acceptable scopes with a decent aperture (at least 80mm) because there is the mount, and the tripod, the scope itself and its eyepieces. The whole can't be produced in an acceptable quality for 80€, but the binoculars are integrated, objectives with eyepieces, and the observer is the mount and tripod bipod.

Unless you search used telescopes, of course, do you insist on buying new, or are you willing to buy used?

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I started out with a cheap refractor from Lidl and it served me well. Personally, I couldn't get on with binoculars although I'm obviously in a minority. I did spend an extra 20 Euros on cheap but better eyepieces. I couldn't go back, but I saw lots of great stuff with my Bresser Skylux 70/700 including Saturn, Neptune, open clusters, globular clusters and even a galaxy or two. It took a lot of frustration but it worked for me. If Greece has a large amount of Lidl stores, they'll be a large second hand market from people who couldn't put up with the annoyances.

I know most people here are more experienced and hold the opposite view but if you don't expect too much it might work for you too.

 

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Interstellar_Explorer

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2 hours ago, Stu said:

Welcome to the forum :)

Astronomy can be very tough on a tight budget, but have you considered a pair of binoculars rather than a scope? You could get a reasonable pair for 80 euros which would probably be much more enjoyable than a poor scope on a wobbly mount.

This is a great offer if FLO ship to Greece!

https://www.firstlightoptics.com/observation-binoculars/opticron-oregon-observation-70mm-binoculars.html

If you do want a scope, then something like this would be well worth considering rather than the two you linked to.

https://www.firstlightoptics.com/beginner-telescopes/celestron-firstscope-76mm-telescope.html

https://www.firstlightoptics.com/beginner-telescopes.html

Thank you! 

And thanks to everyone that actually replied! 

i didn't expect so many replies!

I already have 10x50 binoculars, It's just that i thought telescopes could see more? (even cheap ones)

 

Thanks again to everyone who replied!!

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Interstellar_Explorer

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2 hours ago, Stu said:

Welcome to the forum :)

Astronomy can be very tough on a tight budget, but have you considered a pair of binoculars rather than a scope? You could get a reasonable pair for 80 euros which would probably be much more enjoyable than a poor scope on a wobbly mount.

This is a great offer if FLO ship to Greece!

https://www.firstlightoptics.com/observation-binoculars/opticron-oregon-observation-70mm-binoculars.html

If you do want a scope, then something like this would be well worth considering rather than the two you linked to.

https://www.firstlightoptics.com/beginner-telescopes/celestron-firstscope-76mm-telescope.html

https://www.firstlightoptics.com/beginner-telescopes.html

Oh and also, The telescopes you linked to me are both mini dobsonians, and as a beginner, which one is better? The celestron or the skywatcher?

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6 minutes ago, Interstellar_Explorer said:

Oh and also, The telescopes you linked to me are both mini dobsonians, and as a beginner, which one is better? The celestron or the skywatcher?

I would go for the Celestron, the supplied eyepieces might be a tiny bit better but there is little difference otherwise.

Alan

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10 minutes ago, Interstellar_Explorer said:

Oh and also, The telescopes you linked to me are both mini dobsonians, and as a beginner, which one is better? The celestron or the skywatcher?

Hmmm, tricky question! The Skywatcher has a finder but the eyepieces only give up to x30 whereas the Celestron gives you a higher power option. On balance though I suspect the Skywatcher is the better option.

I’ve used a version of these scopes called an Infinity 76 (looks like a rocket!) and despite certain comments in this thread the optics are surprisingly good.

Hopefully someone who has more direct experience of the two can comment. 

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I agree with binocs . I have celestron 15x70s and love them . They really justify if mounted on a tripod if available but you can see so much with them that at times can be better than a scope and more convient cause use is night or day . If not the 11x70s’ then 10x50s’ at least will help viewing alot !! 

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