Radec Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Well guys - been absent for ages; not done masses of astro but kept some going.I just bought a bino-viewer (Revelation) and a couple of 15mm plossls to stick in to my Nexstar 6 and tonight, quite bizarre I know, the sky was sort of clear.Well, WOW - what a difference one eye makes!The views of the Moon, Jupiter and 'various' just blew me away - never seen so much detail in M42 - and that in a moon-washed sky.After some years away from the hobby, this has totally re-invigorated my interest.I now look forward to getting my SkyQ dongle tomorrow - goodness knows whether it will work, but given time & a fair wind....Who knows?Amazing what a transition can do.Just wanted to shareRadec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floppygoose Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Welcome back Radec, good luck and best wishesPhil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avocette Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 One eye good - two eyes better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niallk Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 +1 for Binoviewers - recently got baader maxbright with 2.5x corrector in 250px and it is like a new scope on moon and Jupiter!! Seriously has me more interested in the moon - mostly spend time on DSOs. Amazing the difference using two eyes even with 2x cheapest 25mm rk eps - normally use naglers with one eye! Just got 2x tv 15mm plossl eps for planets, but weather not cooperating to test yet... All the best, niall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radec Posted February 12, 2014 Author Share Posted February 12, 2014 That sounds like a set-up that will deliver.I'll be interested to hear what you think about the tv plossls - whether worth the £s. Do you have any other 15mms to compare with?Good luck with the weatherRadec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyvern Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 I treated myself to an Antares Bino viewer I spotted on fleabay a couple of months back, and love it. Definitely a case of two eyes being better than one!Enjoy.Les Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Radec,My brother has a 6SE and he loves the setup with binoviewers and describes it just as you have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niallk Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Cheers Radec - will compare the tv 15mm plossl against a TS 15mm SWA in cyclops mode - my one time fav ep when I started!Weather not cooperating: 100mph winds yesterday in Cork - lots of damage around the country. Knocked out the electricity soooo... methinks dark skies(!) if there was a gap in the clouds and the Moon sets Get up this morning ready to see about the Virgo cluster and maybe a comet or two ... but pesky orange streetlights along my southern horizon back up !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radec Posted February 13, 2014 Author Share Posted February 13, 2014 Yep - weather is atrocious and we aren't getting it as badly as you guys!Tell me about LP though - my avatar is a photo I took about 2 miles from where I live. The choice is 'star-burst white' or 'sickly yellow'. Looks a bit like the mountain at the end of 'Close Encounters of the Third Kind' (if you saw it)Let me know what you think of the TVs.CheersRadec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charon Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I could get used to mine, which was a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark at Beaufort Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Radec I will be interested in your opinion on the 15mm televue plossls in binoviewers. I have been using binoviewers for some while and my preferred EPs are 15mm. I use Skywatcher ultra wide which has a 66 degree FOV. The views are very good but I wonder if I might get better sharpness and contrast with the Televues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark in Macc Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Other options are the NLVs or BST Explorers. I have a pair of NLVs that I haven't really had much opportunity to use as yet. The NLVs are quite wide at the top though and may not be to everyone's liking in binos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd8137 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Welcome back ,it's always made me wonder how it works your splitting one light path in to two ,and it does not loose any definition in the image am a big moon fan ,so,would like to see the moon with these Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m0rt Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Coincidently, I was reading a thread this morning on Cloudynights, about viewing Jupiter through smaller scopes. It went on to talk about the benefit on details visible using binoviewers which I found interesting:http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/6190212/page/0/view/collapsed/sb/5/o/all/fpart/6/vc/1That should take you to a page some way into the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beulah Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Can binoviewers come to focus in scopes larger than 12" in aperture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beulah Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Sorry, that was a badly worded question. Does anyone have any issues with binoviewers used in larger scopes, around 12" and 16" of aperture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstroJOE Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Sorry, that was a badly worded question. Does anyone have any issues with binoviewers used in larger scopes, around 12" and 16" of aperture?This doesn't answer your question specifically but I have no problem achieving focus in my 11" SCT so can't imagine 12" would be any different.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike73 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Sorry, that was a badly worded question. Does anyone have any issues with binoviewers used in larger scopes, around 12" and 16" of aperture?Hmmm not sure as I haven't used mine in my 16" but couldn't you shorten the focal length on your truss poles so it reaches focus? I think you may have to really check collimation of both secondary and primary afterwards but its gotta be worth a shot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beulah Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Mike,Thank you for your reply.I should be able to drop the truss poles a little but the 400p does not possess those extra holes that the 300p truss does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beulah Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 This doesn't answer your question specifically but I have no problem achieving focus in my 11" SCT so can't imagine 12" would be any different....Thank you AstroJOE for your reply.It's worth a punt when the cash comes in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Hopper Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Problem with a newt is insufficient back focus when using a bino to reach focus. No issues like that with an SCT. So with a newt a GPC will be needed (works like a Barlow) to focus. The 25mm Tv Plossls are worth a look when using something like a Maxbright.Think they have the same sized fieldstop as the 19mm Pans which I use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YKSE Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 As mentioned about, the Newt usually has shorter back focus to use the binoviewer directly, here the manual for maxbright shows some examples:http://www.alpineastro.com/Binoviewers/Maxbright%20Binoviewer%20Instructions.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radec Posted February 26, 2014 Author Share Posted February 26, 2014 Radec I will be interested in your opinion on the 15mm televue plossls in binoviewers. I have been using binoviewers for some while and my preferred EPs are 15mm. I use Skywatcher ultra wide which has a 66 degree FOV. The views are very good but I wonder if I might get better sharpness and contrast with the Televues.Hi Mark - it's not me with the TVs I'm afraid! To be fair, I made a conscious decision to buy a very moderately priced binoviewer, so I'm not convinced that spending out for TVs would be worthwhile, to look through a sort of cheap binoviewer. I bought a pair of Revelation 15mm superview plossls (68deg afov) and have to say I'm delighted. on brighter objects they are an absolute delight - M42 looks amazing and Jupiter equally. I've also got 25mm Orion Sirius and they are pin sharp, so I'm very chuffed.The downside to the binoviewer is needing 2 of everything! (including wallets )Radec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avocette Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 I should be able to drop the truss poles a little but the 400p does not possess those extra holes that the 300p truss does.My 300p Flextube is about 4 years old and doesn't have the extra set of holes in the truss tubes. I find this is no disadvantage, I just shorten the truss tubes around 10cm and then use a reference spacer of approximately that length to fine adjust the three trusses, one at a time. The main thing is to make them of equal length, not a specific length. The offset provided by the extra set of holes may actually be less than optimal with particular binoviewers, and without being restricted to the one position you can adjust to suit your own preferences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beulah Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Hope you are on commission for Binoviewer Sales, Avocette... Binoviewers now on my wish list.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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