Davey-T Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Just purchased something from iOptron in the USA and paid with PP, PP needed me to agree to them using FB to send the payment, is this normal ? not had it happen before. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RT65CB-SWL Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 I don't like the sound of that. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 1st time I've heard of that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwilkey Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Not heard of that before, sounds a strange arrangement and having bought loads of stuff from AgenaAstro via PP without interfacing with FB. I will be interested in any comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwilkey Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Hi Dave, BTW, you are supposedly protected from fraud if you use PP, not sure how well this works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey-T Posted June 18, 2018 Author Share Posted June 18, 2018 Well got an email saying it's been despatched with a tracking number so all seems OK so far, fingers crossed. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie85 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 I've recently noticed that you xan log in to PayPal via Facebook, maybe this has something to do with it? But as I don't use or have Facebook I cannot comment any further Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thalestris24 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Personally I wouldn't login to paypal via facebook - I like to keep my paypal login completely separate. I somehow wouldn't trust fb with things I want to keep secure. I have a vague memory of paypal offering/suggesting login via fb but I'd always say 'no' Similarly I hate how Amazon is always trying to trick me into signing up for Prime - grrr! Louise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozzybear Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 as far as I am aware facebook has signed up with paypal so you can send money easily? how easy I do not know maybe fire off an email to ioptron for an explanation found this on paypal site the highlighted text in blue hyperlinks dont work as I copied and paste but if you google "how do I unlink paypal from facebook" that will offer some replys How do I unlink PayPal from Facebook? There are two ways that your PayPal account may be linked to Facebook, through a billing agreement, or through receipt notifications.You can unlink your account at any time by cancelling your billing agreement, or turning off your receipt notifications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonperformer Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 I'd "opt" to do business with a different company if they wanted my FB details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey-T Posted June 18, 2018 Author Share Posted June 18, 2018 46 minutes ago, fozzybear said: as far as I am aware facebook has signed up with paypal so you can send money easily? how easy I do not know maybe fire off an email to ioptron for an explanation found this on paypal site the highlighted text in blue hyperlinks dont work as I copied and paste but if you google "how do I unlink paypal from facebook" that will offer some replys How do I unlink PayPal from Facebook? There are two ways that your PayPal account may be linked to Facebook, through a billing agreement, or through receipt notifications.You can unlink your account at any time by cancelling your billing agreement, or turning off your receipt notifications. Thanks for that, I've unlinked from Facebook as they appear to think I wanted it permanently linked, this wasn't made clear from their request I thought they just wanted to do it once, sneaky gits. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozzybear Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 also watch out on ebay linking your paypal account and a@azom they link your paypal account also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oobydooby Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Also you may have to beware of higher import taxes from USA due to the higher levies by The US government. (sorry, I don't mean to make this political, just a warning. A recent purchase from a friend resulted in import charges which were more than the cost of the item plus a charge from the GPO for handling fees. Worked out almost twice as expensive than if she had travelled to the nearest retailer some 60 miles away and brought it from there at the full price) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey-T Posted June 19, 2018 Author Share Posted June 19, 2018 1 minute ago, oobydooby said: Also you may have to beware of higher import taxes from USA due to the higher levies by The US government. (sorry, I don't mean to make this political, just a warning. A recent purchase from a friend resulted in import charges which were more than the cost of the item plus a charge from the GPO for handling fees. Worked out almost twice as expensive than if she had travelled to the nearest retailer some 60 miles away and brought it from there at the full price) It only cost $30.0 so hopefully won't be too much import duty, only bought it from USA as it's the only place that sells it. You can dispute the customs charges but you have to pay them first, I have in the past and got them greatly reduced, just a miscalculation they claimed, took 3 months to get a refund and no apology. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.A.M Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 What happens if you did not have a FB account? Not everybody uses these platforms. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonperformer Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 You buy elsewhere & they lose a sale/customer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gina Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 I have never been asked to use Facebook to pay by PayPal and I use PayPal to pay for many things and not just from ebay. Quick, convenient and safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25585 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 1 hour ago, oobydooby said: Also you may have to beware of higher import taxes from USA due to the higher levies by The US government. (sorry, I don't mean to make this political, just a warning. A recent purchase from a friend resulted in import charges which were more than the cost of the item plus a charge from the GPO for handling fees. Worked out almost twice as expensive than if she had travelled to the nearest retailer some 60 miles away and brought it from there at the full price) I have already learned this the hard way! For some eye pieces though, only the US seems to have them around still. What is more frustrating however are sellers who will not ship outside the US, even for surcharges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey-T Posted June 19, 2018 Author Share Posted June 19, 2018 19 minutes ago, Gina said: I have never been asked to use Facebook to pay by PayPal and I use PayPal to pay for many things and not just from ebay. Quick, convenient and safe. I think it was a combination of being the USA and iOptron, first time it's happened to me, hopefully the last. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonperformer Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 26 minutes ago, Gina said: I have never been asked to use Facebook to pay by PayPal and I use PayPal to pay for many things and not just from ebay. Quick, convenient and safe. Except when they refuse to pass on the money. Used a pp account ONCE for an SGL sale. Never again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigT82 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 I use PayPal for lots of things and have done for about 5 years, never had any issues at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gina Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 I've used PP for SGL sales without a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonperformer Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Many people have, but I can only judge them on my personal experience, which was that they said they were not going to release the money to me and it took a complaint being raised by the person who had sent the money (because I wasn't going to send the scope until I had got it!) to get it sorted out. I don't need that sort of hassle in my life and I don't consider it reasonable to inflict that sort of hassle on other members who transact with me on SGL either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gina Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 I quite agree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marci Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 It's an oauth2 token shared between the two which allows PayPal to send you transaction receipt via messenger, as well as quick login to PP via FB, and also allows you to use PP with FB Marketplace... and it's all _optional_. There's zero risk from linking your PayPal account to a social identity provider, assuming your password for that social identity provider isn't something simple to bruteforce / dictionary attack, and the password for the email account tied to either should be equally tight (majority of hacks are via gaining access to an email account, which then allows you to 'forgot password' on most common services to gain access to everything else. Above all, email passwords should be complex.) PP generally dont't release funds to accounts that haven't been sufficiently verified via phone confirmation code and bank account transaction (random value under £1 taken from bank account, value to be re-entered into PP verification to prove legitimacy of the bound bank account) if the transaction is over a specified amount... If anything, PP's security processes are tighter than most high street banks' online services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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