FLO Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Askar has released two new APO Triplet refractor telescopes - a 140mm and a 185mm f/7! The full range now includes: Askar 103 APO Triplet Refractor Askar 120 APO Triplet Refractor Askar 140 APO Triplet Refractor Askar 185 APO Triplet Refractor Optically-matched reducers and flatteners are available for all models. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLO Posted November 17, 2023 Author Share Posted November 17, 2023 The Askar APO Triplet family photo 🙂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirkSteele Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Are the pricces on the FLO site just placeholders or is that 185 the bargain of the century (assuming they did not make the lens from the bottom of coke bottles)? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLO Posted November 17, 2023 Author Share Posted November 17, 2023 2 hours ago, DirkSteele said: Are the pricces on the FLO site just placeholders or is that 185 the bargain of the century (assuming they did not make the lens from the bottom of coke bottles)? They are actual prices. At least, I think they are. We haven't been advised differently. They are new telescopes, but the Askar 103 APO Triplet has been out long enough for us to see reports, images and feedback from owners. So far, all are pleased. Here's an image I found here at SGL earlier this week. HTH, Steve 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plyscope Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 I like how they put the sliding tail piece on the 140 and 185. Gives more back-focus options and reduces storage size. They achieve the same thing with the removable tube section on the 102 and 120. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart1971 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Can someone explain why these scopes are so reasonably priced, compared to other comparable triplets, especially other triplets in the Askar range such as the PHQ versions, as in my mind you get what you pay for with a scope and these must be a lot cheaper for a reason….or no one would ever buy there higher priced scopes, so where is the compromise here…?? sorry to be a cinic… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnturley Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Stuart1971 said: Can someone explain why these scopes are so reasonably priced, compared to other comparable triplets, especially other triplets in the Askar range such as the PHQ versions, as in my mind you get what you pay for with a scope and these must be a lot cheaper for a reason….or no one would ever buy there higher priced scopes, so where is the compromise here…?? sorry to be a cinic… I wondered about the 185 in particular, 180mm Refractors from TEC, CFF, and Stellarview cost over £15k, even the Explore Scientific 165mm Refractor, which is not regraded as being a premium scope, costs £8k. John Edited November 17, 2023 by johnturley 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elp Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) They don't disclose what glass they use for one and won't tell you. The spot diagrams however look decent and images taken via the 103 and 120 look good, even focal reduced. Edited November 17, 2023 by Elp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigella Bryant Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Awwww, now I have to save up for the 185mm or ask Santa very, very kindly, lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Spock Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 A 185 triplet for 5k? Sure you haven't missed a '1' off the front of that? Not fussed about the weird orange colour though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globular Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 I love the weird orange colour 😁 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Drew Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 If they prove to be excellent the price is bound to increase. Buy soon! 🙂 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elp Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 If they prove to be excellent, the other prices should come down... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulastro Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Just to say I gave much thought before buying the 103 as the price seemed too good to be true. But in the end I decide that with FLOs return policy there wasn't anything to lose. Also, though there were no visual reports when I ordered mine, but there was a good comparative imagers report with three other four inch scopes on u-tube in which the Askar stood up well to more expensive scopes. I've only had nine hours observing with it due to poor weather, but I'm very pleased with it in every way. I don't know how they manage to produce such a high quality scope with so many features for such a comparatively good price. As Peter says, if the others turn out to be as good, then they may not keep the price so low for too long. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elp Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) Incredibly tempting these are (and after the intro promo has ended) but in the meantime I have a Starfield and now I'm waiting to see how the WO Pleiades 68 and 111 turn out first. Edited November 17, 2023 by Elp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart1971 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) 54 minutes ago, paulastro said: Just to say I gave much thought before buying the 103 as the price seemed too good to be true. But in the end I decide that with FLOs return policy there wasn't anything to lose. Also, though there were no visual reports when I ordered mine, but there was a good comparative imagers report with three other four inch scopes on u-tube in which the Askar stood up well to more expensive scopes. I've only had nine hours observing with it due to poor weather, but I'm very pleased with it in every way. I don't know how they manage to produce such a high quality scope with so many features for such a comparatively good price. As Peter says, if the others turn out to be as good, then they may not keep the price so low for too long. Yes, I have watched that video where the guy compares 4 refractors for imaging, the Askar 103 being one of them, and it looked great until the reducers were added, then even with APS-c size sensors, the stars were not great in the corners…but with just the flattener, looked good… Edited November 17, 2023 by Stuart1971 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elp Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) I saw Nico's video, thought they were quite similar. A few people have been imaging with the 0.6x on the 103 with fantastic results, normally below 0.8x with larger sensors it becomes more difficult to get a flat field. Obviously visual it matter less. Edited November 17, 2023 by Elp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart1971 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Just now, Elp said: I saw Nico's video, thought they were quite similar. A few people have been imaging with the 0.6x on the 103 with fantastic results. Subjective I guess, and how much you really care and even bother to look into the corners stars like some pixel peepers do…at full size on a 20” monitor they will all look superb..unfortunately I have to look, my OCD insists on it….😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elp Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Doesn't really bother me, the target is more important. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart1971 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Just now, Elp said: Doesn't really bother me, the target is more important. I am totally jealous…☹️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulastro Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Perhaps instead of asking why Askar triplets cost so little, perhaps we ought to ask why some other manufacturers charge so much. There just might be some refractor manufacturers feeling just a little nervous right now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart1971 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 36 minutes ago, paulastro said: Perhaps instead of asking why Askar triplets cost so little, perhaps we ought to ask why some other manufacturers charge so much. There just might be some refractor manufacturers feeling just a little nervous right now. Well I was comparing to others made and sold by Askar not other manufactures…so do you think they charge way to much for there others in the Askar livery…? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 I keep looking at the 140mm F/7 triplet. For quite a while I was interested in the APM 140mm F/7 ED doublet and now here we have a triplet at around £1K less !!! 😲 The 185 is amazing as well but I'd need a massive new mount for that whereas the 140 would go very nicely on my T-Rex alt-azimuth 🤔 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulastro Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 38 minutes ago, John said: I keep looking at the 140mm F/7 triplet. For quite a while I was interested in the APM 140mm F/7 ED doublet and now here we have a triplet at around £1K less !!! 😲 The 185 is amazing as well but I'd need a massive new mount for that whereas the 140 would go very nicely on my T-Rex alt-azimuth 🤔 I'm not trying to tempt you John, but I'd like to see a pic of the 140 on your T-Rex altaz. 🙂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, paulastro said: I'm not trying to tempt you John, but I'd like to see a pic of the 140 on your T-Rex altaz. 🙂 Evil man ! 😈 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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