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The Veil Nebula, at last. 7 July

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Eastman

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This report is about those moments that you really be amazed .

For as long as I'm into this hobby I want to take a look at the Veil Nebula, I must have tried a hunderd times. But this hobby is all about trial and error and I soon learned you need a bit extra's like a O-III filter. Before buying one I ask a buddy if I could borrow one. No problem he said, but he also said "Gert if you want to take a look at the Veil buy one mate".

He has a Explore Scientific O-III and was very pleased with it, so I took his advice and orderd one. On saturday 7 July the sky look very promising so I took out the 10"dob.

I went right away to the Cygnus to take a look the Veil Nebula, nothing there only weird green looking stars due to the filter. It still not dark enough. Lyra was beginning to pop up. So I went for the Ring Nebula. First without filter followed with filter, the filter makes the background more dark and let the light of the Nebula pop out a little more. I Like wat I'm seeining good purchase allready. Then some more Nebula testing on the Dumbell Nebula, same results especiailly with 80X magnification.

The Sky is becoming much darker at this time so back to the Veil nebula, star hop to the right spot and woooooow there it was and it is huge! I I'm looking at the west part of the nebula with my 32mm eyepiece and it fills it completely. Stunning beauty like a half cirkel of misty clould filling the eyepiece now. I'm really impressed of this filter but also of the size of this Nebula. I was a little concerned what the O-III filter would bring me but it brought me the Veil Nebula from my garden, I'm a happy camper.

 

greetings Gert

 

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Congratulations, Gert! The Veil is a really special object. I’m sure you’ll be even more impressed when you get to see it under dark skies! I’d love to see this target in a wide field scope where I could see the whole complex in a single FOV! I’ve used my OIII to see the North America Nebula and the Crescent Nebula over the past few nights. 

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It is a great target and as a fellow Mod has said many a time, veiwing only this is worth the cost of the Olll filter, or words to that effect. The one thing it does need to be though is dark, even a small amount of Moon can wash it out even in fairly large instruments.

Alan 

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On 08/07/2018 at 23:13, Littleguy80 said:

I’m sure you’ll be even more impressed when you get to see it under dark skies! I’d love to see this target in a wide field scope where I could see the whole complex in a single FOV!

Can't wait to bbserve it under dark skies. Must be great to see the whole complex in the eyepiece. Which scope and eyepiece did you use?

On 09/07/2018 at 08:01, alan potts said:

veiwing only this is worth the cost of the Olll filter

Sure is, I find it also helpfull on ohthe nebula objects.

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Nice one Gert. The Veil is one of my favourites and I hope to get some nice views when away camping later this year.

Most if my viewing of it is with smallish fracs (4”) which fit the whole lot in, but a larger scope shows much more detail in smaller sections. Each has their merits! I need a bigger scope :)

 

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11 minutes ago, Eastman said:

Can't wait to bbserve it under dark skies. Must be great to see the whole complex in the eyepiece. Which scope and eyepiece did you use?

I’m seeing it up close in sections right now using my 10” dob and APM HDC 20mm. As Stu said, to see the whole thing you need a short frac. 

Have a look at the link below. It shows all the different features you can look for with your dob. Pickering’s triangle is a good challenge once you’ve seen the main Eastern and Western sections.

http://www.astronomy-mall.com/Adventures.In.Deep.Space/Dissecting the Veil Nebula.html

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can't really describe how good I've seen it many times..... but last year on the Isle of Skye was the best. Hard to believe but its better than any photograph I've seen...other dob mob members will agree with me..(I hope)!.

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2 hours ago, estwing said:

Not just there any dark site will produce the same results...

Sure, but i've been there before ( before the hobby). Really like to go back but this time enjoy the nature and the dark skies as well. It's a beautiful place.

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10” is a great Veil scope. The whole complex on one view!!! I’d buy the OIII just for that one view.

Next time. Try identifying the different elements, and also try upping the mag. As with a lot of nebulae, it will take a lot of magnification. 

Enjoy.

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1 hour ago, Paul73 said:

10” is a great Veil scope. The whole complex on one view!!

Not in a 10" Paul, unfortunately. Would be nice though.

Best high power view I've ever had was of the Witch's broom in a 15" Obsession with OIII. Totally photographic view.

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1 hour ago, Paul73 said:

10” is a great Veil scope. The whole complex on one view!!!

Is that going to be possible, what eyepiece do I need?

 

1 hour ago, Paul73 said:

Next time. Try identifying the different elements, and also try upping the mag. As with a lot of nebulae, it will take a lot of magnification. 

Thanks Paul, sure going to try that next time

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24 minutes ago, Eastman said:

Is that going to be possible, what eyepiece do I need?

Afraid not, the focal length is just too long. You need about 3.6 or 3.7 degrees to fit it in comfortably with sky around to frame it. With a 42mm 68 degree eyepiece you would get about 2.4 degrees. Nice, but no banana ;) 

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Not just the sight, but knowing  the whole is a supernova remnant is what I find so fascinating, the ghost of an exploded imploded star. And somewhere is the white dwarf or neutron star, all that remains of its core. 

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Here are the elements of the Veil Nebula complex to look out for, visually. As Stu says, you need an ~3.5 degree true field to get all of these in a single field. With my ED102SS refractor thet is possible but with my 12" dob I take this target in sections, and lovely sections they are :icon_biggrin:

Veil.big.jpg

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Eastman

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10 hours ago, Stu said:

Afraid not, the focal length is just too long. 

Okay Stu thanks for the explanation. Have to enjoy it in sections then. 

 

9 hours ago, 25585 said:

Not just the sight, but knowing  the whole is a supernova remnant is what I find so fascinating

Sure is, if you think of the power that it took to create such a remnant.

 

7 hours ago, John said:

and lovely sections they are :icon_biggrin:

They sure are John. Can't wait to explore more of it, thanks for the map.

And many thanks everyone for your reactions and usefull tips, its going to help me to enjoy the veil nebula even better!

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