Anthony1979 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Does the camera get better when the number goes higher.... ie is a canon 4000d better than the lower number like 300d... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesF Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, Anthony1979 said: Does the camera get better when the number goes higher.... ie is a canon 4000d better than the lower number like 300d... Depends on your definition of "better" This might be useful by way of comparing some of the major features: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Canon_EOS_digital_cameras James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy-kat Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Generally the less digits (not lower number) the better the product line. 80d better than 800d but 8d better than both etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alien 13 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) In general the the four digit cameras like the xxxxD are basic entry level models, the three digit ones xxxD have better noise performance and more features like mirror lock up, the two digit ones are usually a more rugged have many more features like micro focus adjustment for lenses etc, the single digit cameras are the pro models.. The first number is usually and indication of manufacture date so the series might go something like 300D/400D/500D etc with all the models having similar design features but big improvements in performance with each step.. Alan Edited February 7, 2020 by Alien 13 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul M Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 1 minute ago, happy-kat said: Generally the less digits (not lower number) the better the product line. 80d better than 800d but 8d better than both etc. I didn't realise this when I acquired my 1200D. Probably not the best for astro but, to be honest, I'm not getting the best out of it for terrestrial use either! Anyway, I think user skill is of greater importance than camera spec! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celestron8g8 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 This link leads you to Canons DSLR line . Starts with highest price down to cheapest and in that order camera numbers listed . https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/products/list/cameras/eos-dslr-and-mirrorless-cameras/dslr/eos-dslr-cameras Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony1979 Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 Thank you.. im just thinking about getting a 450d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony1979 Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 Or would the 40d be better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celestron8g8 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 The 40D is an older camera . If you can get a 450D that would be best to go with . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooth_dr Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 4 hours ago, celestron8g8 said: The 40D is an older camera . If you can get a 450D that would be best to go with . There isn’t much in it at 2007 and 2008. The 40d is a very good camera. The bigger magnesium body of the 40d might help it run a bit cooler inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlaiv Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Here is a good website for comparing DSLR type cameras in their specs / performance for AP: http://www.photonstophotos.net/ this page in particular: http://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/Sensor_Characteristics.htm Running 40d vs 450d comparison gives this graph: Both have rather low QE at 31-32% ... While we are at it, what do people think of Canon M100? It is entry level mirrorless Canon model with rather good specs. It is also fairly cheap, B&H lists it for $350 new - I'll throw it into comparison mix: It is very light weight (no mirror and slim body) - 300g with memory card and battery. It has almost double quantum efficiency of these two models - at 56% and it has lower read noise (both types although I don't really understand DN expressed read noise after conversion here) and similar FW capacity at 30K 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy-kat Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Might it's size mean it could run warmer perhaps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy-kat Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 11 hours ago, happy-kat said: Generally the less digits (not lower number) the better the product line. 80d better than 800d but 8d better than both etc. I should add that the above is a generalisation of product line not a reflection on astro suitability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padraic M Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 I find this matrix useful - from the Astrophotography Toolkit user's guide: https://ideiki.com/astro/EOS.aspx It shows you year of manufacture, and processor generation. Notice that the 450D has live view but doesn't support video. I have a 400D (no live view) and am looking to upgrade to a 70D. Padraic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony1979 Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 So its better just to get the 450d 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooth_dr Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 54 minutes ago, Anthony1979 said: So its better just to get the 450d Or a 40d. Both very similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy-kat Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 I would work the other way, for the budget in question what are the options available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony1979 Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 Im only looking at 100 second hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony1979 Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 The only thing with the 40d is the sharper count... Its cheap than the 450d but the count is nearly 30,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooth_dr Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Anthony1979 said: Im only looking at 100 second hand 40d - plenty of ebay. £80, shutter count 80k. Plenty of life in it still and when you get bored of it, you’ll still get your money back (or maybe lose a tenner at most) https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F174184563516 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony1979 Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 Shutter count i mean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony1979 Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 https://www.mpb.com/en-uk/used-equipment/used-photo-and-video/used-digital-slr-cameras/used-canon-digital-slr-cameras/canon-eos-40d/sku-912729 Theres this or This https://www.mpb.com/en-uk/used-equipment/used-photo-and-video/used-digital-slr-cameras/used-canon-digital-slr-cameras/canon-eos-450d/sku-930095/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooth_dr Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Anthony1979 said: https://www.mpb.com/en-uk/used-equipment/used-photo-and-video/used-digital-slr-cameras/used-canon-digital-slr-cameras/canon-eos-40d/sku-912729 Theres this or This https://www.mpb.com/en-uk/used-equipment/used-photo-and-video/used-digital-slr-cameras/used-canon-digital-slr-cameras/canon-eos-450d/sku-930095/ To be honest I had two 40d running side by side, one with 6k and one with 70k, there was no difference in the quality of the images. The shutter sounded slightly lazier in the higher shutter count, but it doesn’t really matter when you’re taking 300s exposures. You should be happy with either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony1979 Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 Not sure which one to get now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey-T Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 51 minutes ago, Anthony1979 said: Not sure which one to get now You came to the right place to get confused Anthony 😂 Dasve 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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