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All Doom and Gloom from Brian Cox

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ugh once again the bbc DO NOT make programs just for your viewing pleasure, they have to appeal to a wide audience to get satisfactory viewing figures, or else the program/series gets binned.

Actually, that is wrong. They have a commitment to public service broadcasting which means precisely that each programme doesn't have to appeal to a wide audience, although the overall output clearly has to cater to a wide audience. What has been happening more and more is that the requirement to educate is being fudged with "shows" like this one which is 80% entertainment. It's about time the regulator started kicking up a fuss about this.

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Whatever you have to say about the man and his latest program, he inspires a lot of people to get into science.

No, I think he inspires a lot of people to get into TV presenting.

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Haha yes it was a bit apocolyptic! but I am hopeful that the rest of the series will be a bit more uplifting! :)

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I wish people would stop calling it the Union Jack, It is the Union Flag, The Jack is the bit of wood to fly it from. Right way up is with the broad white stripe at the top nearest the Jack

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I wish people would stop calling it the Union Jack, It is the Union Flag

Perhaps the best thing to do is to dissolve the Union ... the argument is going to continue until then :)

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I thought it was a bit slow, It did have some interesting stuff in it, the explanation of entropy I thought was quite well explained but the whole thing could have been told in 15min instead of 59min.

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All ways look on the bright side of life ,der der der der der der der der.:)

Doug

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haha! Doug I like it! I think there were far too many swooping panarama camera shots of Brain Cox posing on some mountain face while the wind blows through his hair etc etc but apart from that it was good! :)

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I've watched it now and tbh it lost interest by the end and went in the garden to look for the ISS+shuttle.

It was a bit slow. Hope it improves, I loved the frost series.

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I cant believe we are still discussing this ???

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I cant believe we are still discussing this ???

"All Doom and Gloom from SGL"?:)

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Shuttle is getting ready to Land and i'm watching it :-)

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To be honest I enjoyed it, yes its Edutainment and notice the edu bit is smaller than the tainment :)

Of course if anyone can do better please feel free to do so :(

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Hi,

I looked up entropy on Wikipedia, I think I will stick with the Blessed Brian's

explanation.

mijijim

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Hi,

I looked up entropy on Wikipedia, I think I will stick with the Blessed Brian's

explanation.

mijijim

i dont blame you! entropy can be as complicated as you make it, conversely as simple :(

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All this has made me incrdedibly keen to see what you all didn't like!!

Olly

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All this has made me incrdedibly keen to see what you all didn't like!!

Olly

I've not seen it yet either - but, having attracted 9 pages of posts, it's got to be worth a view !.

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I've not seen it yet either - but, having attracted 9 pages of posts, it's got to be worth a view !.

9 pages? I'll take a stab at summing it up in 2 words. "It's OK".:(

(is "It's" a cheat to claim as one word?)

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All this has made me incrdedibly keen to see what you all didn't like!!

Olly

not all of us by any means but there is some disgruntlement from a fair few members, why I am not really sure, are most of the positive comments coming from the newer members/beginners of the forum as they are so keen on anything astronomy related at the moment?, I include myself here, as opposed to more experienced members who have SEEN it all before and are not comfortable with what may be a new era for astronomy or am I way off the mark and its just that some people don't care for brian cox :(

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am I way off the mark and its just that some people don't care for brian cox

The more I see, the less I like. He may know his stuff but totally fails to give that impression ... I rather suspect that he's a typical product of modern hyperspecialization and therefore knows rather less about astronomy and cosmology than a non-specialist like say David Attenborough does about nuclear fusion.

It's not only Cox's programmes - the book "Why does E=mc^2" which bears his name is also the worst introduction to relativity that I've ever come across - I don't expect rigour in a popular science book but I do expect good science ....

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I thought the science was fine for the level that it was pitched at.

What made my wife and I groan were his ridiculous poses between narratives. We think he may eventually disappear up his own bottom.

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In terms of 'doom & gloom' I think that the series 'Planets', also on iPlayer (it's gone now :) ) fares much better and the background music is not cheerful at all. Really depressing :( In terms of content, 'Planets' has a lot more information than 1st episode of 'Wonders of Universes'.

But what's wrong with explaining the public about entropy' ??? Should the general public be 'protected' by lingo mostly known to those who've had a short encounter with Physics or Chemistry? I don't think so. As long as the explanation is clear and not overwhelming, then knowlege can never be too much :) In my humble opinion of course :D ...

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What made my wife and I groan were his ridiculous poses between narratives. We think he may eventually disappear up his own bottom.

Like most tv programmes though this isn't likely to be his own idea.. the directors and other creative minds behind all these programmes have more to answer for than the presenters themselves..

He is still relatively new to the presenting thing as well so I doubt he would have much weight to throw about in order to change things if he doesn't agree with them.

I thought in a few of the shots he actually looked uncomfortable as if someone had told him to "go and stand over there looking pensive" when he was actually thinking "not again..." :(

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I really have to back Brian up here, I think he's a class presenter, I can't think of anyone else that could give such bad news as "the death of the universe" with a smile on their face,

Come to think of it, he's always got a smile on his face, and there's too much seriousness in this world, so good on ya Brian.

I have to say maybe the first episode didn't quite scratch my learning itch (and i'm a noob), but I'm still looking forward to the next episode.

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