bish Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Hello all, I used to have an 11mm nag which I used a lot but had to sell. I am looking for something similar. I was thinking of trying a 13mm nag, but from what I remember of past discussions there are cheaper alternatives that are quite close in performance. It would just be for my 250px. I intend to make the most of dark sky visits so do want high end performance. Ethos are out of my price range! Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnturley Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 (edited) The Explore Scientific 82 degree series are almost as good, and less than half the price, also ES still do an 11 mm one, which Tele Vue have discontinued. John Edited August 19, 2020 by johnturley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bish Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 46 minutes ago, johnturley said: The Explore Scientific 82 degree series are almost as good, and less than half the price, also ES still do an 11 mm one, which Tele Vue have discontinued. John Thanks John, that sounds ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis D Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 The original T1 11mm or the T6 11mm? The former was very rare because it was quickly discontinued due to poor sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bish Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Louis D said: The original T1 11mm or the T6 11mm? The former was very rare because it was quickly discontinued due to poor sales. I assume it was T6. Bought it new about 10 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 The T6 is a lovely little eyepiece, very compact and capable. Steve did a review of one he won in a competition here: Very different in terms of form factor, and having a wider afov there is the APM 13mm 100 degree which gets good reviews. I’ve had a couple of the 20mm and like them a lot, a fair bit cheaper than the Televue equivalents. https://www.astroshop.eu/eyepieces/apm-eyepiece-hdc-xwa-13mm-100d-2-1-25-/p,60234 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15Rules Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 How about a Baader Morpheus 12.5mm? Beautiful wide angle eyepiece (76 degrees but much better eye relief than the T6 13mm (which was one of the few Tele Vue EPs I've owned, and a very good one). The Morpheus 12.5mm would be around £190 new, or c £120 or so used. Think Pentax XW or TV Delos optical quality. HTH, Dave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 I owned all the Nagler T6's at one time, except the 11mm ! In fact I don't think I've owned an 11mm eyepiece for around 20 years for some reason I expect the ES 11mm 82 is a pretty decent eyepiece and close to Nagler performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bish Posted August 20, 2020 Author Share Posted August 20, 2020 13 hours ago, F15Rules said: How about a Baader Morpheus 12.5mm? Beautiful wide angle eyepiece (76 degrees but much better eye relief than the T6 13mm (which was one of the few Tele Vue EPs I've owned, and a very good one). The Morpheus 12.5mm would be around £190 new, or c £120 or so used. Think Pentax XW or TV Delos optical quality. HTH, Dave Thanks Dave, I will check them out. Extra eye relief is a bonus for me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bish Posted August 20, 2020 Author Share Posted August 20, 2020 8 hours ago, John said: I owned all the Nagler T6's at one time, except the 11mm ! In fact I don't think I've owned an 11mm eyepiece for around 20 years for some reason I expect the ES 11mm 82 is a pretty decent eyepiece and close to Nagler performance. Good excuse to order yourself a shiny new 11mm? I have mainly been using meade hd 60"s which are not bad but a bit over priced I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 34 minutes ago, bish said: Good excuse to order yourself a shiny new 11mm? I have mainly been using meade hd 60"s which are not bad but a bit over priced I think. I can't really justify it, unfortunately . I have the Delos 14mm, the Ethos 13mm, the Pentax XW 10mm and the Ethos 8mm. And a zoom which covers 7.2mm - 21.5mm for good measure. They are the ONLY reasons that I've not bought a Tele Vue 11mm Apollo of course https://www.widescreen-centre.co.uk/tele-vue-apollo-11-special-edition-eyepiece.html 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bish Posted August 20, 2020 Author Share Posted August 20, 2020 9 minutes ago, John said: I can't really justify it, unfortunately . I have the Delos 14mm, the Ethos 13mm, the Pentax XW 10mm and the Ethos 8mm. And a zoom which covers 7.2mm - 21.5mm for good measure. They are the ONLY reasons that I've not bought a Tele Vue 11mm Apollo of course https://www.widescreen-centre.co.uk/tele-vue-apollo-11-special-edition-eyepiece.html I forgot the apollo 11. My wife would throw me and my scope out!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyS Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 41 minutes ago, John said: I can't really justify it, unfortunately . I have the Delos 14mm, the Ethos 13mm, the Pentax XW 10mm and the Ethos 8mm. And a zoom which covers 7.2mm - 21.5mm for good measure. They are the ONLY reasons that I've not bought a Tele Vue 11mm Apollo of course https://www.widescreen-centre.co.uk/tele-vue-apollo-11-special-edition-eyepiece.html Quite so, John 🙂 Do we know anyone on SGL that has bought one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Pensack Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 The 2 most cost-effective suggestions are the 12.5mm Baader Morpheus 76° and the 13mm APM XWA 100° eyepiece. The Morpheus actually measures about 78°, so it would have the most similar apparent field to the Nagler. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Pensack Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 4 hours ago, JeremyS said: Quite so, John 🙂 Do we know anyone on SGL that has bought one? I've been using the Apollo 11 since December. I wrote some comments here: https://www.cloudynights.com/topic/687544-televue-apollo-11-reviews-here/?p=10009894 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NGC 1502 Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 On 20/08/2020 at 10:42, JeremyS said: Do we know anyone on SGL that has bought one? I’m the proud owner of two TeleVue 11mm Apollo eyepieces. I used them last night in a TeleVue binoview, absolute stunning and sorry to mention that they are indeed worth every penny. So grab ‘em while you can........ unfortunately, following immediately after the stunning views, I woke up from my lovely dream....... Ed 🙃 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Barnes Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, NGC 1502 said: I’m the proud owner of two TeleVue 11mm Apollo eyepieces. I used them last night in a TeleVue binoview, absolute stunning and sorry to mention that they are indeed worth every penny. So grab ‘em while you can........ unfortunately, following immediately after the stunning views, I woke up from my lovely dream....... Ed 🙃 Ha! Good one Ed, had me going for a minute there! 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyS Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 3 hours ago, NGC 1502 said: I’m the proud owner of two TeleVue 11mm Apollo eyepieces. I used them last night in a TeleVue binoview, absolute stunning and sorry to mention that they are indeed worth every penny. So grab ‘em while you can........ unfortunately, following immediately after the stunning views, I woke up from my lovely dream....... Ed 🙃 That's a corker, Ed! You also had me going too 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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