Rodd Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 It has taken me a long time to get this image to a point that I am happy with. Not perfect, but I can live with it. The dense starfield combined with faint, pervasive nebulosity was the main issue. FSQ 106 with .6x reducer and asi 1600 with 3nm Astrodon filters Ha: 142 300 sec OIII: 90 300 sec SII: 82 300 sec 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam J Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 (edited) Have you tried using starnet++ to help deal with the stars / nebula balance? Edited December 5, 2019 by Adam J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmo39 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Nice one Rodd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodd Posted December 5, 2019 Author Share Posted December 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Adam J said: have you tried using starnet++ to help deal with the stars / nebula balance? No. IMO many starless images look s bit.....well I am just not into them. I am sure it could be useful to reduce the number of stars, but I don’t really want to remove something that is there. I want to portray the scene with all its components, though well balanced. The proper settings In morphological transformation work well at reducing star profiles but not removing stars. It can be a delicate balance though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodd Posted December 5, 2019 Author Share Posted December 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, simmo39 said: Nice one Rodd. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam J Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Rodd said: No. IMO many starless images look s bit.....well I am just not into them. I am sure it could be useful to reduce the number of stars, but I don’t really want to remove something that is there. I want to portray the scene with all its components, though well balanced. The proper settings In morphological transformation work well at reducing star profiles but not removing stars. It can be a delicate balance though Oh i never remove them as such, they tend to go back in as they came out, it just makes processing the nebula easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodd Posted December 5, 2019 Author Share Posted December 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Adam J said: Oh i never remove them as such, they tend to go back in as they came out, it just makes processing the nebula easier. I have removed stars for that purpose too using well fitting star masks. I get 95% of the stars—all the small ones, just not some of the big ones but they are not the problem. Sometimes it does help. I tried that a while ago with this image. I couldn’t capitalize on it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan potts Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Not perfect, go stand in the corner. Looks wonderful to me. You always seem to come up with things that don't get captured so often, or I just don't recognise it. Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodd Posted December 5, 2019 Author Share Posted December 5, 2019 1 hour ago, alan potts said: Not perfect, go stand in the corner. Looks wonderful to me. You always seem to come up with things that don't get captured so often, or I just don't recognise it. Alan Thanks Alan. Widefield shots of this target are not as common as closer in shots of the bright region for some reason--probably because the outer regions are quite faint and not easy to process by any standards. It takes a lot of data to really do the region justice. I think I was inspired to shoot this FOV from a Sara Wager image a couple of years ago--so they are out there, but not common. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceph Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 I could also live with a picture like that, thats is a beautiful image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodd Posted December 5, 2019 Author Share Posted December 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Ceph said: I could also live with a picture like that, thats is a beautiful image. Thanks Ceph..............eus (couldn't resist). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob-c Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Love it, very well done. Bob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodd Posted December 5, 2019 Author Share Posted December 5, 2019 1 hour ago, bob-c said: Love it, very well done. Bob. Thanks Bob! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glowingturnip Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 i like the composition on that - main area of interest off-centre, rule-of-thirds and all that, so you make a feature of the leg of brown dust etc - nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodd Posted December 6, 2019 Author Share Posted December 6, 2019 1 hour ago, glowingturnip said: i like the composition on that - main area of interest off-centre, rule-of-thirds and all that, so you make a feature of the leg of brown dust etc - nice Thanks Stuart. This FOV reminds me of Garuda...the Indonesian God of....something or other...a winged creature. I have had mixed feelings about the composition since the area to the upper right seems to be a lot more interesting than the vacant space to the lower left. Rodd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carastro Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Very nice Rodd. Carole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodd Posted December 6, 2019 Author Share Posted December 6, 2019 47 minutes ago, carastro said: Very nice Rodd. Carole Thanks Carole Rodd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinB Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 That is really nice Rodd. It all looks great from fine detail to the colour. The 0.6 reducer must bring you down below F3. Do you think that cuts out some signal with the 3nm filters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodd Posted December 6, 2019 Author Share Posted December 6, 2019 1 hour ago, MartinB said: That is really nice Rodd. It all looks great from fine detail to the colour. The 0.6 reducer must bring you down below F3. Do you think that cuts out some signal with the 3nm filters? Thanks Martin. It brings the focal ratio to F3. I called Astrodon and asked them and they said I would be OK. I think their web page has been changed to say up to F3--before it was up to F3.5. There may be a small loss, but Its hard to know. Rodd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinB Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 25 minutes ago, Rodd said: Thanks Martin. It brings the focal ratio to F3. I called Astrodon and asked them and they said I would be OK. I think their web page has been changed to say up to F3--before it was up to F3.5. There may be a small loss, but Its hard to know. Rodd Whatever, it works!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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