Rodd Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 I was never satisfied with my L(Ha)R(Ha)GB of M33. I over processed the darn thing every time I had a go at it--which was too often to count. I fell into the same gopher hole every time. The data was excellent, however--each stack looked great, so I had another go after a much needed break from it. I think I am satisfied. My main goal was not over processing, and depicting that soft glow that is commonly seen in galactic images. TOA 130 at F7.7, STT 8300 Red: 31 10m min Green 31 10 min Blue 19 10 min Ha 10 30 min Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarsG76 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Awesome result.. well done.... Halpha gives it that finishing touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodd Posted December 11, 2017 Author Share Posted December 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, MarsG76 said: Awesome result.. well done.... Halpha gives it that finishing touch. Thanks Mars--As long as its not too red! Delicate balance...not my strong suite! Rodd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodd Posted December 11, 2017 Author Share Posted December 11, 2017 Wondering if it is deficient in blue stars--a very delicate bump in blue saturation results in more blue stars. Galaxies have allot of blue stars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StargeezerTim Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Really nice... puts my effort in its place! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarsG76 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 26 minutes ago, Rodd said: Thanks Mars--As long as its not too red! Delicate balance...not my strong suite! Rodd It might be slightly red on my work monitor, but it could be the display.. I find that the best representation of levels and colors are on my iPhone when screen is at full brightness, believe it or not... I imagine its the same for all modern smart phones... have a look on the phone screen, you'll be surprised how much either better a image looks or how much level inaccuracies it shows up. Either way, it looks great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carastro Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Very nice, and it reminds me I need to do this target again to try to improve on last time. Carole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markarian Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Great pic and the Ha adds such a lot. I find this a hard subject to image because of it's low surface brightness. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkster501 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Very nice. it was time well spent gathering all that data of which M33 requires a lot. I love the HII regions that have popped out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobro Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Rodd said: L(Ha)R(Ha)GB Super M33! Could you explain a bit more about the Ha and Red exposures - times for these are different but my limited understanding would expect them to be the same as Ha is presumably used for Red? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodd Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 3 hours ago, StargeezerTim said: Really nice... puts my effort in its place! Thanks Tim. I am sure your image is very nice too. Rodd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodd Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 3 hours ago, MarsG76 said: It might be slightly red on my work monitor, but it could be the display.. I find that the best representation of levels and colors are on my iPhone when screen is at full brightness, believe it or not... I imagine its the same for all modern smart phones... have a look on the phone screen, you'll be surprised how much either better a image looks or how much level inaccuracies it shows up. Either way, it looks great. Yes...I agree. On my iPhone images look amazing. I think some of it is the screen size. But I love looking at astrobin photos on my iPhone or ipad. Rodd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodd Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 3 hours ago, carastro said: Very nice, and it reminds me I need to do this target again to try to improve on last time. Carole Thanks Carole. That's the beauty of AP--everytime I image a target its different somehow. Be nice to string together a few reslly good nights so that all the data is good for a change! Rodd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodd Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 3 hours ago, markarian said: Great pic and the Ha adds such a lot. I find this a hard subject to image because of it's low surface brightness. Mark Thanks Mark. Rodd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodd Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 2 hours ago, kirkster501 said: Very nice. it was time well spent gathering all that data of which M33 requires a lot. I love the HII regions that have popped out. Thanks Kirkster! Rodd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodd Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 2 hours ago, bobro said: Super M33! Could you explain a bit more about the Ha and Red exposures - times for these are different but my limited understanding would expect them to be the same as Ha is presumably used for Red? Thanks Brobro. Broad band is a bit different than narrowband. Ha typically takes longer to collect, and its pretty impervious to light pollution so the sky fog limit is taken out of the equation. I usually take 30 min Ha subs. But 1 hour subs for Ha are doen by some. When adding Ha to the red channel and to the lum channel, only a percentage of it is added usually--otherwise the image would look too red. The long subs ensure a clean signal so noise is not added to the image. Rodd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollypenrice Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 The Ha has added lots of interest. Olly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodd Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 3 hours ago, ollypenrice said: The Ha has added lots of interest. Olly Thanks....Like walking on a tightrope 200 feet in the air! Rodd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodd Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 I suppose it would not be complete without one last modification. A touch of fine scale sharpening to reveal individual stars in the spiral arms. Still not sure about the blue level--but that is easy to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graemlourens Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Hi Rodd. A very very nice image... You have inspired me to re-evaluate my own M33, and certainly yours has become a role model image when i start reprocessing! The subtle touch to it makes it seem so realistic as one would be looking at it with ones own eyes. Kind regards, Graem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam J Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Rod if you did not give us at least 8 verions then it would not be you Latest Version looks fantastic, not going to be easy to improve on that without ending up on the slippery slope towards over processing. Adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodd Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 56 minutes ago, graemlourens said: Hi Rodd. A very very nice image... You have inspired me to re-evaluate my own M33, and certainly yours has become a role model image when i start reprocessing! The subtle touch to it makes it seem so realistic as one would be looking at it with ones own eyes. Kind regards, Graem Wow..Thanks Graem. I appreciate the kind words and look forward to seeing your M33 Rodd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodd Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 24 minutes ago, Adam J said: Rod if you did not give us at least 8 verions then it would not be you Latest Version looks fantastic, not going to be easy to improve on that without ending up on the slippery slope towards over processing. Adam Thanks Adam, and you are correct--that is the last one. I don't want to fool with it anymore. Rodd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodd Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 Perhaps 1 final tweak--nothing major--but the contrast in the disc is improved--not sharpened, but a differential histogram modification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeODay Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Lovely image Rodd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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