Telescope

[Sohn]

So, First i need a telescope. I looked for ohne in Amazon.de. but i am not sure which one is the right for me as a beginner. I also can Not buy an expensive one. I can spend  About 250 Dollars.  I looked forward to hearing from you. 

[Victor Boesen]

try to look at astroshop.eu, lots of different scopes for a reasonable price. you could look after a nice dob if you want something easy to set up while still having a scope that collects a lot of light. 

[Sohn]

Thank you, Bossen. Can you tell me what a Dob is?

[Victor Boesen]

27 minutes ago, Sohn said:

Can you tell me what a Dob is?

A dob is a type of telescope called a dobsonian telescope.

Push-to mount and only requires collimation once in a while. 

[Charic]

I have one of those, perfect for my requirements,  very simple to setup, simple to use and simple to stow away, until the next time its needed.

They come in 6" and 8" and 10", sadly the 12" is no longer produced in this style, which could have been my next purchase, bigger is better, Right!

If you just want to visually look at the night sky, with no setup worries, and don't wish to photograph anything professionally (snaps of the Moon will work )  you should consider its merits.

[brantuk]

Dobsonian actually refers to the mount which is a rocker box on a turntable invented by John Dobson. The telescope mounted in them is usually a Newtonian reflector - no prize for guessing who invented that one lol.

[Jimtheslim]

7 minutes ago, brantuk said:

Newtonian reflector - no prize for guessing who invented that one lol.

Who was that then?

[Victor Boesen]

1 minute ago, Jimtheslim said:

Who was that then?

Isaac Newton.

[Jimtheslim]

2 minutes ago, Bossen said:

Isaac Newton.

Unfortunately as stated above, there's no prize! I was joking, forgetting that sarcasm doesn't come through in text form

[Victor Boesen]

Just now, Jimtheslim said:

Unfortunately as stated above, there's no prize! I was joking, forgetting that sarcasm doesn't come through in text form

Hahah! I wasn't even considering that you where joking??

[Floater]

+1 for the Dob. It's widely accepted that they provide the best value for money; they are easy to set up, and easy to use. 

Collimation just means turning a few knobs or screws to get things aligned. You are unlikely to have to do anything with a new telescope except take it out of the box(es), put it together, insert an eyepiece and start observing. Collimation, if necessary, can come later and you shouldn't worry about it.

Don't buy from Amazon unless you know exactly what you want and why you want it. Far better to buy from a reputable company and if you can't visit a shop (which is not easy for me to do) at least try to talk to someone from a company you can trust. Best of all is to visit a club and seek advice,  possibly see some scopes.

Try to manage your initial budget so that you can buy the largest aperture telescope you can afford. Then enjoy using it and learning what yo can do with it.

There are many sources online for research and many people here willing to help if you have any questions.

Have fun.

EDIT

Wow, how late am I ... ?

[Jimtheslim]

A Newtonian reflector telescope on a dobsonian (dob) base is a great start and will give you the most aperture for your money and for your budget it will likely give you years of happy observing.

As mentioned, try and buy from a reputable shop or even better, second hand/used as you can probably get a bigger and better scope for your money.

Happy hunting.

[Jimtheslim]

8 minutes ago, Bossen said:

Hahah! I wasn't even considering that you where joking??

So it wasn't Olivia Newton John?

[Victor Boesen]

1 minute ago, Jimtheslim said:

So it wasn't Olivia Newton John?

I actually don't remember

[jetstream]

+2 for the dob. They offer a very stable platform to observe from and provide vg views.

[popeye85]

Just wondering, is it possible to upgrade the manual model to GOTO somehow? 

[Dave In Vermont]

It's possible - how much money do you wish to spend? My point being that it would likely be less £££'s to get one ready-to-go. Or buy a GoTo-Mount and place a telescope you already have.

Dave

[popeye85]

It's just a musing at the minute-have been offered a good price on a second hand one and already thinking about how to put future wage packets into it to improve!

[popeye85]

Sorry sohn, don't mean to hijack your thread! I agree with the idea of a Dob, although it also depends on what you want to look at with it and if you are planning on taking photos with it at some point.

[Ben the Ignorant]

10 hours ago, Jimtheslim said:

I was joking, forgetting that sarcasm doesn't come through in text form

Yes, it does.

[Ben the Ignorant]

11 hours ago, Sohn said:

So, First i need a telescope. I looked for ohne in Amazon.de. but i am not sure which one is the right for me as a beginner. I also can Not buy an expensive one. I can spend  About 250 Dollars.  I looked forward to hearing from you. 

Price alone does not narrow down the choice enough, but the dob advice is generally good. To see other possibilities, there is another type of simple and rewarding telescope: the large, short refractor on a basic up/down, left/right swivel mount (it's called and alt-az mount). A 120mm diameter refractor with a 600mm focal length is twice as short as 200mm dob with a 1,200mm focal length.

Which means it shows a portion of sky twice as large as the dob, great for viewing starfields. This one is above the price you mentioned but it's only an example:

http://www.teleskop-spezialisten.de/shop/Refraktor/120-130mm/Skywatcher-Startravel-120-auf-AZ-3-Montierung-Grossfeldrefraktor-Teleskop-120mm-600mm-f-5::227.html

[Sohn]

19 hours ago, Jimtheslim said:

Who was that then?

Thanks. I need a Lot to learn 

[Sohn]

Is This one good for a beginner?

[jetstream]

57 minutes ago, Sohn said:

Thanks. I need a Lot to learn 

How portable does your scope need to be? a SW 150mm f8 dob would be excellent, but they are biggish. A 200mm f6 dob might even be better.

[Sohn]

21 hours ago, Charic said:

I have one of those, perfect for my requirements,  very simple to setup, simple to use and simple to stow away, until the next time its needed.

They come in 6" and 8" and 10", sadly the 12" is no longer produced in this style, which could have been my next purchase, bigger is better, Right!

If you just want to visually look at the night sky, with no setup worries, and don't wish to photograph anything professionally (snaps of the Moon will work )  you should consider its merits.