Sohn Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 So, First i need a telescope. I looked for ohne in Amazon.de. but i am not sure which one is the right for me as a beginner. I also can Not buy an expensive one. I can spend About 250 Dollars. I looked forward to hearing from you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Boesen Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 (edited) try to look at astroshop.eu, lots of different scopes for a reasonable price. you could look after a nice dob if you want something easy to set up while still having a scope that collects a lot of light. Edited October 22, 2016 by Bossen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sohn Posted October 22, 2016 Author Share Posted October 22, 2016 Thank you, Bossen. Can you tell me what a Dob is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Boesen Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 27 minutes ago, Sohn said: Can you tell me what a Dob is? A dob is a type of telescope called a dobsonian telescope. Push-to mount and only requires collimation once in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charic Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 (edited) I have one of those, perfect for my requirements, very simple to setup, simple to use and simple to stow away, until the next time its needed. They come in 6" and 8" and 10", sadly the 12" is no longer produced in this style, which could have been my next purchase, bigger is better, Right! If you just want to visually look at the night sky, with no setup worries, and don't wish to photograph anything professionally (snaps of the Moon will work ) you should consider its merits. Edited October 22, 2016 by Charic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brantuk Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 (edited) Dobsonian actually refers to the mount which is a rocker box on a turntable invented by John Dobson. The telescope mounted in them is usually a Newtonian reflector - no prize for guessing who invented that one lol. Edited October 22, 2016 by brantuk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimtheslim Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 7 minutes ago, brantuk said: Newtonian reflector - no prize for guessing who invented that one lol. Who was that then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Boesen Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 1 minute ago, Jimtheslim said: Who was that then? Isaac Newton. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimtheslim Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, Bossen said: Isaac Newton. Unfortunately as stated above, there's no prize! I was joking, forgetting that sarcasm doesn't come through in text form 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Boesen Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Just now, Jimtheslim said: Unfortunately as stated above, there's no prize! I was joking, forgetting that sarcasm doesn't come through in text form Hahah! I wasn't even considering that you where joking?? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floater Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 (edited) +1 for the Dob. It's widely accepted that they provide the best value for money; they are easy to set up, and easy to use. Collimation just means turning a few knobs or screws to get things aligned. You are unlikely to have to do anything with a new telescope except take it out of the box(es), put it together, insert an eyepiece and start observing. Collimation, if necessary, can come later and you shouldn't worry about it. Don't buy from Amazon unless you know exactly what you want and why you want it. Far better to buy from a reputable company and if you can't visit a shop (which is not easy for me to do) at least try to talk to someone from a company you can trust. Best of all is to visit a club and seek advice, possibly see some scopes. Try to manage your initial budget so that you can buy the largest aperture telescope you can afford. Then enjoy using it and learning what yo can do with it. There are many sources online for research and many people here willing to help if you have any questions. Have fun. EDIT Wow, how late am I ... ? Edited October 22, 2016 by Floater 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimtheslim Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 A Newtonian reflector telescope on a dobsonian (dob) base is a great start and will give you the most aperture for your money and for your budget it will likely give you years of happy observing. As mentioned, try and buy from a reputable shop or even better, second hand/used as you can probably get a bigger and better scope for your money. Happy hunting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimtheslim Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 8 minutes ago, Bossen said: Hahah! I wasn't even considering that you where joking?? So it wasn't Olivia Newton John? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Boesen Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 1 minute ago, Jimtheslim said: So it wasn't Olivia Newton John? I actually don't remember Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 +2 for the dob. They offer a very stable platform to observe from and provide vg views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye85 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Just wondering, is it possible to upgrade the manual model to GOTO somehow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave In Vermont Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 It's possible - how much money do you wish to spend? My point being that it would likely be less £££'s to get one ready-to-go. Or buy a GoTo-Mount and place a telescope you already have. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye85 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 It's just a musing at the minute-have been offered a good price on a second hand one and already thinking about how to put future wage packets into it to improve! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye85 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 (edited) Sorry sohn, don't mean to hijack your thread! I agree with the idea of a Dob, although it also depends on what you want to look at with it and if you are planning on taking photos with it at some point. Edited October 23, 2016 by popeye85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben the Ignorant Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 10 hours ago, Jimtheslim said: I was joking, forgetting that sarcasm doesn't come through in text form Yes, it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben the Ignorant Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 11 hours ago, Sohn said: So, First i need a telescope. I looked for ohne in Amazon.de. but i am not sure which one is the right for me as a beginner. I also can Not buy an expensive one. I can spend About 250 Dollars. I looked forward to hearing from you. Price alone does not narrow down the choice enough, but the dob advice is generally good. To see other possibilities, there is another type of simple and rewarding telescope: the large, short refractor on a basic up/down, left/right swivel mount (it's called and alt-az mount). A 120mm diameter refractor with a 600mm focal length is twice as short as 200mm dob with a 1,200mm focal length. Which means it shows a portion of sky twice as large as the dob, great for viewing starfields. This one is above the price you mentioned but it's only an example: http://www.teleskop-spezialisten.de/shop/Refraktor/120-130mm/Skywatcher-Startravel-120-auf-AZ-3-Montierung-Grossfeldrefraktor-Teleskop-120mm-600mm-f-5::227.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sohn Posted October 23, 2016 Author Share Posted October 23, 2016 19 hours ago, Jimtheslim said: Who was that then? Thanks. I need a Lot to learn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sohn Posted October 23, 2016 Author Share Posted October 23, 2016 Is This one good for a beginner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 57 minutes ago, Sohn said: Thanks. I need a Lot to learn How portable does your scope need to be? a SW 150mm f8 dob would be excellent, but they are biggish. A 200mm f6 dob might even be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sohn Posted October 23, 2016 Author Share Posted October 23, 2016 (edited) 21 hours ago, Charic said: I have one of those, perfect for my requirements, very simple to setup, simple to use and simple to stow away, until the next time its needed. They come in 6" and 8" and 10", sadly the 12" is no longer produced in this style, which could have been my next purchase, bigger is better, Right! If you just want to visually look at the night sky, with no setup worries, and don't wish to photograph anything professionally (snaps of the Moon will work ) you should consider its merits. Edited October 23, 2016 by Sohn Mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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