MikeP Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 As everyone here must be aware, working at night even with dark adapted vision can be difficult. Some form of illumination may be required whilst imaging / observing, but I find it is vital when clearing up and going in and out of the house after losing dark adaptation.Initially I tried using a hand held red led torch. It is OK but not really bright enough and I found that when in use it spent more time gripped between my teeth because I needed both hands to operate scope, camera, laptop etc. The next experiment was with a head torch that my wife bought for me, having seen me struggle (well, heard me curse). You charge it up by winding a handle - its OK too but it ain't half noisy to wind in the middle of the night. Also, I can reveal that Boots 17 "Knockout Red" nail polish is neither my colour, nor suitable for painting the lens.So I looked round. I eventually settled on the Petzl Tac Tikka Plus. I know it sounds like an Indian takeaway, but it really is a head torch.It has high, medium and low levels of illumination that are selected by one, two or three rapid clicks. Switching off only requires a single click from whichever illumination level is in use. There is also a flashing option that can be selected with four rapid clicks.What I really like about it is the red lens cover that hinges up and down. This allows me to use the torch for astronomy with the red lens in place and for woodworking / DIY without it (ageing eyes need lots of light to focus on the small divisions of a ruler). The lowest level with the red lens in place is more than adequate for me to work by and Petzl estimate 120 hours of usage from three AAA batteries in this mode.The torch is very small and light - so small that I wondered how on earth the three batteries would fit.The downside is price, I paid £30.95 inclusive of p&p from facewest.co.uk, which on reflection is quite a lot, but I love it and it is getting lots of use.Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcut Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 i have the same model. i tried other "red" mods on torches. this model is perfect with the red filter down. agree the price is a bit steep but i like it nonetheless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveL Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 An odd thing I noticed about it... you would expect that as you select the lower brightness levels, it would just lower the voltage to the LEDs... but oh no, it pulse width modulates the full voltage. Sure, you dont notice this normally, but when creeping into the house at night, trying not to wake the wife, and using the downstairs toilet with my Tac Tikka Plus still on...err... how can I put this... the shadow of "the stream" was being pulsed like a strobe light. A very freaky experience when I wasnt expecting it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themos Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 it would just lower the voltage to the LEDsYou can't do that with LEDs, they are too sensitive to voltage changes, so much that they are effectively on/off devices. Hence the need to pulse them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studdedsole Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 Just had a look at this torch but there is a rated burn time of 120hrs....does this imply its in the bin after 120hrs use - that would only give around 60-120 sessions use? :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveL Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 err... they are LEDs, they dont burn out, you just change the batteries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studdedsole Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 Cheers - it's not clear on the web site as there is no relationship to battery type and no clear definition as to burn time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shifter Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 I use a headlight from energizer available from Argos in the camping and caravaning section, it has 2 settings which are 2 white led''s when the switch is to the right and 1 red led when the switch is to the left. As with the previously mentioned headlight in this thread it has a pivoting lens and up to now I haven't had to change the batteries ( I use it for reading in bed as well as in the obs). All in all a very good all round unit considering the £10 price tag, very good value in my mind. .....Brian..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philsail1 Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 mmmmm Brian, that light in "Argos" looks a good one - and for £9.99p I think I'll be putting one of them on my Christmas list (well, I'll ask her to buy it now and wrap it up for Chrimbo). (I wonder how many "clear nights" there are to go before Christmas!).Thanks for the pointer Brian.Regards,philsail1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beamish Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 I use a headlight from energizer available from Argos in the camping and caravaning section, it has 2 settings which are 2 white led''s when the switch is to the right and 1 red led when the switch is to the left. As with the previously mentioned headlight in this thread it has a pivoting lens and up to now I haven't had to change the batteries ( I use it for reading in bed as well as in the obs). All in all a very good all round unit considering the £10 price tag, very good value in my mind. .....Brian..... The "energizer" h-light (as in Argos) is also easy to mod to run red either to the left or right, avoids accidently turning on the white. Done v. easily with a small piece of red gel placed in between the front lens and the plate into which the LED's sit. XLNT value too.Karlo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shifter Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 mmmmm Brian, that light in "Argos" looks a good one - and for £9.99p I think I'll be putting one of them on my Christmas list (well, I'll ask her to buy it now and wrap it up for Chrimbo). (I wonder how many "clear nights" there are to go before Christmas!).Thanks for the pointer Brian.Regards,philsail1It is good value but don't be tempted to go for the one @ £14.99 because its a push button type and you have to cycle through the 2 white light settings before you get to the red setting as against the slide switch of the one @ £9.99....... Get them hints dropped Phil lol .....Brian..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philsail1 Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 Thanks for that reminder Brian - I'll make sure I give her the correct Argos Ref number!Regards,Philsail1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryachu Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 I was in B&Q in Hereford tonight and these head torches were in a box by the door for £8 each including batteries. Single red LED or two white selectable by a centre off switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 At those prices I think I'll be making a purchase!Thanks for the heads up!Hugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 bought one from B&Q at the weekend exactly the same as Argos but £2 cheaper! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beyond_Vision Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 I got an LED head torch from a local petrol station for £3.99 if you bought more than £20 of fuel. It has 3 brightness settings with 7 high brightness LEDs it has an adjustable strap plus as click stop angle adjustment. I cant remember the petrol station company name but if I see it again I will update post.Regards Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stardust Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 I've got one like that, the front lens unscrews and I put a red quility street wrapper inside, can't remember the flavour but it works a treat. DAve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew* Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Malt Toffee 8)I know cos I did exactly the same :oops:I don't like those ones though - far too hard for my rotten teeth! I wish fudge would have a red wrapper, then I would gladly make 1000 red light torches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiny Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Be careful to get the right one at Argos - they also do a £9.99 head torch with just a white light and it seems to be in most stores while the red ones are order only in smaller ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iancandler Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 LED torches should vary the brightness by varying the current not the voltage...I use a cheapo LED head torch bought for £5, it has 3 brightness settings plus a flashing setting, it angles nicely on click stops.With spending another couple of quid on a 2" wratten red filter from ebay it works perfectly for astro use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinB Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 When imaging I use a 100W table lamp plugged into the mains!! Forget night vision, just flood the garden with light. Makes life so much easier, and much less likely to blow a few hundred quid by tripping over a cable. Just have to remember to switch it off before starting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shifter Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 :laughing3: :laughing3: .....Brian..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cygnusx1 Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 I picked up a nifty head torch for 4.99 at Robert Dyas last night whilst out shopping with the wife.It's pretty bright, takes 3xAAA batteries, but fits nicely on round the head and angled down.I'll paint the glass cover up shortly with red, but have found that it really dulls the lighting effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beyond_Vision Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 I got an LED head torch from a local petrol station for £3.99 if you bought more than £20 of fuel. It has 3 brightness settings with 7 high brightness LEDs it has an adjustable strap plus as click stop angle adjustment. I cant remember the petrol station company name but if I see it again I will update post.Regards KevinThe garage in question was BP.Regards,Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary1968 Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 I use a Draper head torch, just the ordinery buld type. It takes 4 AA batteries and is quite bright. I fitted a piece of red thearter light gel to front that I scrounged from a mate at work who does thearter lighting as a hobby.Clear skiesGary A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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