Charon Posted November 21, 2011 Author Share Posted November 21, 2011 Yes I will go the second hand route and experiment with different makes in the 8-9mm range. Thanks for your input 4lefts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MjrTom Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 I personally also prefer the volcano top orthos for their shape that fits nicely in the eye socket however the BGO with their flat tops rest nicely on your eyebrow. Overall I preferred the volcano tops but did recently sell a 9mm volcano top to replace it with a BGO as optically they are slightly better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charon Posted November 22, 2011 Author Share Posted November 22, 2011 Mark what are volcano tops? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MjrTom Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Mark what are volcano tops?Sorry, Also known as Circle-T orthos & also branded as University Optics OthosEyepieces - 1 1/4" Oculars from University Optics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charon Posted November 22, 2011 Author Share Posted November 22, 2011 Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johninderby Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Volcano tops are a "Marmite" type of thing. You either love them or hate them. Personally I prefer the BGO style.John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Volcano tops are a "Marmite" type of thing. You either love them or hate them. Personally I prefer the BGO style.JohnThey are a personal thing. I prefer the shape of the volcano tops (easier to get my eye close into the eye lens) but I prefer the optical performance of the BGO's / University HD's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charon Posted November 22, 2011 Author Share Posted November 22, 2011 My 'problem' is trying different types, not so easy being out here most of the time. I do know I want a 8-9mm though:). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charon Posted November 23, 2011 Author Share Posted November 23, 2011 Another EP to consider is the Televue Radian, no problem with eye relief with these (is there)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael.h.f.wilkinson Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 I have had the Circle-T 5mm ortho (hated its short eye relief) and 25mm ortho (loved it). In my C8 I first got a 10mm Plossl, which also has poor eye relief, but it was sharp. I replaced this by first a 9mm Vixen LV (225x, used a lot) and later an additional LV 7mm (288x). The latter got used less, but is excellent for those nights of superb seeing (remember those ). I have since replaced them by Radians (8 and 10mm) which I rate slightly above the LVs (especially nearer the edge of the FOV). Really comfortable EPs to use. I have heard very good reports of the much cheaper Vixen NLVs. Same eye relief, smaller FOV, but slightly better contrast than Radians (which get very mixed report, but I like mine), according to some. My report on my Radian is here:http://stargazerslounge.com/member-equipment-reviews/96606-radian-8mm-vs-vixen-lvs-vs-barlow-meade-uwa.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonshane Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 I am a big fan of BGO's and have just rebought two I sold to fund my GiroII. I find the 9mm really hits the sweet spot for my scopes (1600mm focal length so 177x) most of the time. occasionally when the seeing is excellent, I can use the 7mm on planets (229x). For anything 6-3mm I have a ready made alternative in the Nagler zoom which is also excellent and my preference for such short focal lengths on my driven mount. I also prefer the BGO style as I find it easier to retain eye position than with the VTs.Either way, I prefer Orthos vs plossls for anything less than 15mm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damo636 Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Another EP to consider is the Televue Radian, no problem with eye relief with these (is there)?I really like my 6mm Radian. I also had the 14mm for a short time but sold it when i snapped up a used 13mm Nagler. I did get the chance to compare the two before selling the Radian and at least to my eyes the Radian was every bit as sharp. They are probably the most comfortable eyepiece i have used to date. 20mm of eye relief and the eyeguard can be adjusted to suit the individual. Very nice eyepiece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charon Posted November 24, 2011 Author Share Posted November 24, 2011 I have had the Circle-T 5mm ortho (hated its short eye relief) and 25mm ortho (loved it). In my C8 I first got a 10mm Plossl, which also has poor eye relief, but it was sharp. I replaced this by first a 9mm Vixen LV (225x, used a lot) and later an additional LV 7mm (288x). The latter got used less, but is excellent for those nights of superb seeing (remember those ). I have since replaced them by Radians (8 and 10mm) which I rate slightly above the LVs (especially nearer the edge of the FOV). Really comfortable EPs to use. I have heard very good reports of the much cheaper Vixen NLVs. Same eye relief, smaller FOV, but slightly better contrast than Radians (which get very mixed report, but I like mine), according to some. My report on my Radian is here:http://stargazerslounge.com/member-equipment-reviews/96606-radian-8mm-vs-vixen-lvs-vs-barlow-meade-uwa.htmlEnjoyed reading your report Michael. Also thanks to Brantuk for his advice (again). I have decided to go with the 8mm Radian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael.h.f.wilkinson Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Enjoyed reading your report Michael. Also thanks to Brantuk for his advice (again). I have decided to go with the 8mm Radian.You won't regret it. I use the 10 a bit more lately, but when good seeing returns, it is the 8 that sees most use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Spock Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Interestingly I found the reverse to be the case. For me the NLV (perhaps different coatings to the LV?) out performed the Radian. It was sharper and more contrasty. I also compared them with an Circle-T ortho - the ortho was brighter than the NLV, but sharpness and contrast were similar. I seemed to get a bit finer detail with the NLV - maybe the BGO is a better ortho then the Circle-T? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charon Posted November 25, 2011 Author Share Posted November 25, 2011 Michael I have a 10mm Hyperion which I enjoy using but I could not get on with my 8mm Hyperion for some reason. It is not the scope either as I have used a 6mm TMB on unusually good conditions and it was okay. I will try the radian 8mm and if it does not work for me I know I will have no problems selling it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael.h.f.wilkinson Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Interestingly I found the reverse to be the case. For me the NLV (perhaps different coatings to the LV?) out performed the Radian. It was sharper and more contrasty. I also compared them with an Circle-T ortho - the ortho was brighter than the NLV, but sharpness and contrast were similar. I seemed to get a bit finer detail with the NLV - maybe the BGO is a better ortho then the Circle-T?The NLV is much more recent than the LV (which I always liked), and may well be better. I might try getting an NLV 9mm to compare to the Radians. I might also have a go at the Pentax XF 8.5 (if I can get it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 These people have some NLV models at around half price. Not the 9mm, unfortunately.:Accessories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonshane Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Well, my (perfect!) 9mm and 12.5mm BGOs have just arrived (thanks Stu!) so that's Christmas sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MjrTom Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Bet you are glad to have them back after their absence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Excellent, glad they got there ok, sorry for the slight delay, life just got in the way for a few days!Enjoy them! Sure I too will re buy some in future but different focal lengthsCheersStu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonshane Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 deffo matey. I particularly missed the 9mm. one is for crimbo and the other bought from my 'spends'. I'll be asking my wife to wrap the 12.5! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MjrTom Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 haha dont blame you, the 9mm is my favourite with my 102mm refractor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonshane Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Excellent, glad they got there ok, sorry for the slight delay, life just got in the way for a few days!Enjoy them! Sure I too will re buy some in future but different focal lengthsCheersStucheers StuI'll be sending the 2" cap today by the way - needed to get to a PO and buy a stamp! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 No worries Shane, I know that feeling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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