joe aguiar

ok was just saying cause he said was an evostar maybe he thought was a apo and should have zero colour, cause this also confused someone else who thought they got a ed scope instaed of the acro cause of the same name. so in case he sees fringing joejaguar

ya you have eps and a diagonal thats all u need to start with norm tho for dso they say a 8" like the 8"f/5 reflector will do great on a heq5 mount BUT try with what u have first. joejaguar

just so you know that's scope is an acro NOT the apo version. here in North America too all the scopes were called black diamond as the colour is black with small white dots (hense the name) BUT not all of them were the apo designs. The only ones that have always been apo 51 glass when skywatcher first came out with that light blue version like 12 years to 15 years ago then after all were 53 doublets noe in the gold/ black diamond/evostar lines. Again the apo 53 glass models are Only the 80mmf/7.5 100mmf/9 120mmf7.5 150mmf/8 models the other scope may be called also black diamond or now its evostar but they are acros not apos so there will be colour around the bright stuff joejaguar

image quality was much better much sharper as my vid says it was much sharper in a 2" 32mm ep, so even in low power I could see it much shaper and contrast. This is when Saturn is one of its worst years too. however yes as I said to most people a doublet 53 apo at f/9 is also rated very good in fact the abbie rateing for this scope is 98% so I didn't think it be such a huge quality image difference but it was. John I was able to see the same features on both but tak was just sharper clearer to see and more contrast. but for $1200 the SW 100f/9 is also a good scope too it depends if you want a good better or best and how much your willing to pay. as I said few times when it comes to cell phone I am old school I get the cheapest phones (galaxy 3 is what I have now). some may say that's old compared to whats new out there BUt to me that's all I need I don't do apps, and to me my phone is just a phone or to text its not a camera or computer. so to me that's not important others it maybe a scope. A decent apo or entry level apo is more then enough for what they want which is fine. I also did compared my 120mm TSA to the meade 130mm 6000 model too BUT I cant say what happened as I cant give details until I do a video for my channel first probally in the spring time. or iam doing my channel harm in giving that info out before I realease that info. But back to what I started with that's the difference I saw hope that helps if you want to see that video u can, I also have others like the 6" evostar if anyone is interested in buying that scope first you can get a first hand on that scope too. BUT ill stop here on the tak now since I don't want to take over the posters thread which would be rude. SW is a great company I have owned scopes from them since like 1999. joejaguar

well we cant go by price only I own takahashi, skywatcher, meade and celestron bascally most the big name brands. saying this statement doesn't really help tho, I mean by my sig you can see I have the 6" evostar apo which is $2600 (on sale right now) compared to esprit 150mm apo at $8500. so we could also say I could buy 4 150 evostars compared to the 150 espirits. and this is comparing 2 models from the same company. I own a skywatcher model so iam not putting down skywatcher at all. also I also tested my takahashi 102TSA S to my 100 f/9 evostar (I sold it few months ago BUT I did own it) and there is no comaprision the tak blew the SW model out. But for most people the SW evostar could be enough and that's great. This is also a big difference in price too the evostar 100f/9 is $1050 (on sale now) compared to my 102 tak about $4000 which is just shy of 4x the price so ya you could buy 4 100 evostar compared to a tak BUT theres a huge difference in what u will see. I did a video on this . iam not saying same would happen compared to an espirit model based on my experience the tak 150 could still out perform the esipirt 150 but on a lesser degree since the spirit model is SW top model refractor compared to the evostar line, but iam sure there may still be some difference even if its small BUT we all have a price point on what we buy. If $8500 is your top then the 150 spirit may be fine for you if its the 150 evostar at $2600 then that's fine too. I too have not owned a tak toa 150 cause its $19,000 which is a lot but there are those that do. joejaguar heres the video if u want to see it https://youtu.be/menLyjrBeoU

Is that a brand new scope? I would probably return it and get a regular dob without goto and it be half the cost and just add a rigel or telrad. But guess that doesn't help your issue. I just see soo many posts with goto not working over the years. Joejaguar

I look at it like theres always compromises in the type of scope. I kinda like the sct, nothing beats its af far as being compackness BUt sure it will have CO so contrast goes down a bit BUt then again theres a huge difference in a 8sct vs a 8" refractor. After the 6: refractor size its only a obsevertory class scope. as far this yes "Doing the math, this means that the aperture without the obstruction would be equivalent to a 180mm non-obstructed aperture scope " but contrast will be bit better in a scope with no central O since all the light is too a point where any scope with a CO some light gets put into the airy disk. I say have a scope for each occasion 😛 joejaguar

Agreed he already bought them and they are fairly good eps just dont use it with an inferior Barlow. Back in the 90s I came to the conclusion that I saw some difference from using regular Barlow compared to not using one at all. Even using TV barlows I found a very small minute difference but still a small amount so I tried to just use eps whenever I can. However somtimes with st scopes theres no other way cept to use a Barlow. Cheers Joejaguar

the power spread seems decent u may need 1 more highter power this also depends on your scope and focal length, since I cant see what scope/scopes u have hard to tell if u need more. NO don't use a cheap barlow with good eps, its just gonna lower the quality of the image . its almost like you could have just bought cheap $30 eps then if you use that barlow forget the 480x and 720x powers joe

have you tried to contact any skywatcher dealer maybe they can order you that part on their next order. I cant see a cap being more than a $1 or 2 but atleast that way it will fit perfect verses kinda fit but may fall off sometimes. joejaguar

have you tried calling orion? cant they help with that? joejaguar

I saw on Amazon a 3pk of generic plossl for like $45 that's about $28uk even tho it's no name brand should make the views alot better Joejaguar

The badder hyperion are pretty good ep they are almost $200 ep b4 taxes tho. these are on sale now at $155 so about $30 off each The Meade HD 60 are also good and I keep seeing the 6.5mm on Amazon for like $98 which is very good. Joejaguar

Hi sent u a PM as well Joejaguar

hi neil remember as we said in that other post it manilly the finder ep and barlow which is not going to be good. since you are trying to not upgrade and use what u got for now you wont get great views out of those items, but keep getting experence and i think what will happen is you will get so fet-up with those items that you will then just upgrade it. those eps are hygens ep with are 2 element and 25 degree fov . The barlow i think since i didnt see a pic but to my gut felling its a single element barlow i wouldnt even use it AT ALL. just for now use the 20mm ep and if it has a 12mm ep after that the views wont be good so u may as well stick to these eps, and ya forget the 4mm ep as well, the view will be big but blurry so thats no use. joejaguar

i think you will enjot that scope 5.1 inch and parabloic miror, i also bought it to test it for the christmas time. joejaguar

Good reminder hard to remember everything Joejaguar

I put a 2 inch diagonal on mine and a low power ep somthing like 40 to 50mm. For that large items. Joejaguar

Both are different well maybe not the tube but the mounting. For the same money in a 6 inch eq5 u can get a 10 inch dob version. The 10 inch will show u more especially dso. But being a push pull system moving it at high powers in small minute movements is not do easy. I know some u will say u can buy the dob tracking system but where I am thsts like $600 with tax that's almost like 90% of the cost of the 10 inch dob. For example the skywatcher 10 inch classic dob is on sale right now for $719 The eq version probably the 6 inch size will cost the same but u will see less. The eq version ep is the perfect height for most adults. Also having manual slow motion controls is very handy for high power views. The dob you will be on your knees. Even at the zenith u will be bending down .again some u will say put it on a table but it has to hold it steady or it will vibrations. The eq version can add a cheap drives like $49 for tracking. Ok u decide Joejaguar

slow down have fun live in the present 3.5 weeks left in 2019 those objects have been in the sky for hundreds of years probally thousdands joe

Visual is so much easier I either just take the whole setup from inside out if it's my smaller to medium scopes. If it clouds up it takes 2 min to bring it back in. Try to keep it in closest room to the back door not down the stairs in basement in back room that's too much trouble. For my med to big scopes it might be 2 or 3 trips but again if it's near the back door those 3 trips are 5 to 6 min max. I also have my scopes setup of course capped for dust so viewing is easy but yes imaging is much harder and more stuff to do. Joejaguar

Sorry the other part to your question about what will u see is get a planisphere and a good book like night watch. There like 20 pages of star maps inside of maybe the best and brightest 150 for u to start with. Joejaguar

Biggest factor is where you live and how much light pollution u have. 2nd remember you have a 4 inch scope which is made for high power views. 4 inch is not a big scope for dso it's ok size for the planets. The standard is if you are serious about seeing dso the 8 inch size is the minimum. That doesnt mean there isn't some of that bright stuff u cant see either. I agree as well those 2 ep are too much mag u really need something lower and the 25mm ep since your scope is soo long, a 32mm ep Joejaguar

i thought what u had was the dob version by saying 150p so i guess u got the eq version? joejaguar

yes nice video, especially if there are new people here they can see what to expect and yes except the colour part mostly. joejaguar