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  1. Thank you very much for answering me, that is what i need, much appreciated! 1. I crop, and i don't mind at all to crop, in fact most of what i imaged with one setup i crop, doesn't matter if it was from smaller sensor 4/3" or APS-C or even if i will use a full frame which i can crop a lot, cropping isn't a big deal for me, so that i want 400-450mm so i can crop and still have good nebulosity there, and i will crop only the overlap that is not huge if all rigs systems are very similar in FOV, if you go to previous pages i think i posted 3 images i did before as tests, all are cropped and i am happy with that. 2. Not with 2 90s as i still keep the second 90 inside the shipping box and never opened yet, i did this with my two 60mm doublets and two 4/3" cameras, both scopes are same design but different brands, also with two cameras, same specs but different brands, and it matched or worked seamlessly together, so i assume if i use same exact setup it should work, i mean no reason why it work with two rigs and not with other two the same, maybe 90 could be complicated a bit, but i will manage. 3. Yes, not enough mono NB data, and i always hate stars from NB filters, so i decided i will force myself using only RGB starts, with this it means it is impossible i finish one target doing NB and RGB in one night or even 2 nights, and i hate to spend so so many nights for one target, so i can give maximum 2 nights per target, and in my area most targets aren't staying longer than 3-4 hours at best altitude in sky, so i am almost forced to 3 hours maximum at best, or less, so means hours of data translated into so many nights, i want to cut that by having many data per night, if i needed little more i just complete it next night possible only, so if i use say 3 rigs and each is capturing at least 2 hours this means 6 hours per night, one rig it means like 2-3 nights, so in 2 nights i can manage about 12 hours, at the long run if i can have enough targets then later i could add like 2-3 nights more on my old targets, but i won't spend full year only completing 4-6 targets. 4. Same targets with those 3-4 scopes not different, OSC i planned to use it only for RGB stars, but i did like a mistake that forcing me to use OSC again, which is having a dual band filter, L-Ultimate, the Ha/OIII 3nm 2" filter, so i need like two OSC then, one for RGB alone and one for dual band filter, the other mono will be for SII/Lum, maybe i add like Ha or OIII alone to have better signal from mono and add it to OSC dual band, many ways i can think about, in all cases i will always use a mono in my setup, and if RGB is working nice for RGB stars then fine, i tried it twice, it was bad because i used LP filter that killed it a bit, i got stars just fine, only colors a bit off, i think without that LP i could have nice colors stars then but i didn't try, i will have time soon to test again, just i have to be ready if OSC gave me nice results then i should include it, and NB is much easier than broadband under LP skies anyway. 5. All of them when possible, but i can say it will be like 90% nebulae, and the rest for clusters and galaxies as those are a bit difficult from LP, but can be done, and i need lots and lots and lots of data for integration time, hence i wanted many imaging system to capture more at less time, fast optics isn't in my plan yet, but that will be far future plan maybe. 6. I tried several targets with only one setup and mono, i could never have enough data in short time, Ha alone eating full night and even i need more, most of the time i just go with like 2 hrs Ha nd 1 hr OIII and 1 hr SII in 1-2 nights and accept it it is done and i don't add more later, ha is standing out just ok not perfect, while OIII and SII are weak, so i will never go out every night just to add data of one target, i always keep thinking why i only doing it with 1 setup and not 2 or 3 or more, i mean while i wait one setup to complete one filter only and yet not enough i could start another one for another data, that was my plan, i used one setup and i wasn't happy doing it, 3 years and i barely could have one target or two perfect enough even easy one, also i might decide to go to dark skies later in future so i think OSC can do the job as i won't go there often maybe only 1-2 times per year so i have to get enough data in one night as possible, i don't have RASA or Hyperstar and might never get one, but who knows. 7. I always have time for processing data when i am waking up in the morning or afternoon, or even at night while i am waiting my setup outside collecting photos, i don't work no job so i have time, i only get busy because of family or friends at night, so definitely there is time for that. By the way, the main cause of issues i have in the past was from my old laptop that it has Windows 7 yet never upgraded, and also with power and connection, it wasn't with camera and scope focus or filters really, so what wasted a lot of my time is that sudden disconnect of imaging camera or guiding camera or mount going weird and such, i bought mini PC only by end of 2022 so last year for tests it fixed my problems, and also my Pegasus Power Box managed my connections and powering, and i also decided to use a separate power to my mount, that solved most issues i had back, and while i was fixing those issues i just bought more stuff and items while fixing, so i just won't drop and sell them now after i got them at great prices, i need to use them properly when possible, i didn't share anything since maybe 2021-2022 of DSO, only solar last year and i won with one, also planetary without sharing, but this year i have to get back to DSO imaging after long break, two 90s and two 60s with FRA400 are all ready, also this year i am planning to buy an affordable mount for my other new scope which is RC 10" truss design, it will be used for galaxies and clusters, and sometimes nebulae but mainly Planetary nebulae, that is also i want to have another scope to match it which is another story and topic not bringing here. One step at time is true, i did that since 2017, but got bad situations between 2018 until 2021 which preventing me to do more of DSO imaging and setup management, so i was just shopping and collecting items which i want to use now and not dump them, and 2018-2019 were years of planetary for me and i was happy, many moon and planets images i had so i didn't focus on DSO, 2020 is COVID years, 2021 my wife's new location job, no need to continue more but i decided to stop 1-2 years then i can return, now is the time for that, i have helpers [Brother in law and my wife's cousin] to setup my equipment so that also minimizing a lot of my time.
  2. I think i was clear in my posts, i already have two IMX571 cameras, it is not from ZWO or QHY, it is from ToupTek, same sensor in 2600 cameras, so both the mono and OSC will be used with my both two same exact scopes of TS Optics 90mm f/6 CF APO triplet, so i have two identical same setup exactly just one with mono and one with color camera, and i bought new scope which is 106 f/6.6, i was thinking about getting 0.6x reducer to make it wide to 420mm which is very close to two 90s, and i want to use also another IMX571 sensor for that new scope so i can have same sensor of three rigs being one scope is different, then if i have enough budget i can add 4th rig be it my 300mm lens with 1.4x or whatever else to have FL of about 400-430mm then i also think about 4th IMX571 camera, i bought both cameras at very nice prices, i can add 3rd as color not a problem, but if i have to add two more mono then that will cost me a bit and i can only have one mono now and wait longer for last one, and it will force me to buy one more filter as OIII because i have Ha and SII 3nm 2" filters already, but i also have dual band filter of L-Ultimate which is Ha/OIII 3nm, so i was thinking if this is gonna be practical enough wit OSC then should i buy another OSC as i want to use one OSC i have for RGB stars only, or i am forced to buy RGB filters which means another budget to be spent, so i asked to plan wisely, i already have extra scopes and lenses, i want to use them all or most more as like 3-4 together than use only 1 or 2 for several nights to complete 1 target at least.
  3. I am shopping for autofocuser for all my scopes as much i can, i have one for one 90 CF APO for now and will buy another one the same exactly for the second 90, and last month or November i received ZWO EAF so it will be used with Askar FRA400, then i will be left with 106 and two 60s doublets and RC and Newt. I always take flat frames even if i keep my camera/scope on the mount for next night, because i know any movement and i could present dust movement too, or even new dust coming for another night, it is very easy to take flats, only if it is good enough to be used, to be honest i never had issues with flats for narrowbanding, while for broadbanding it is not working for me, so i will try to fix this issue sooner or later, and about rotators, well, that will definitely cost a lot, i understand automating things will make the mission easier a bit, but i can't tell how far i can automate things with my setup, most likely rotation isn't gonna happen any soon for automation and i will just go with manual rotation, but some people told me that software can manage align frames even with different rotations, so i will depend on processing to correct and fix most non automated devices..
  4. Actually i started this to ask about which two cameras, let's say one camera for now, you pushed it into the topic of the useless or issues of dual/multiple rigs, and i tried to explain my situations or reasons as much i can, and now i forgot about the main question about which camera, but yes, i will always start with two first to match perfectly as i can, when that is going great for a while then i can add more, and still the question is waiting the answer, when i add third or 4th rigs, which cameras then, i have IMX571 one mono and one OSC now, so need to decide if i add same sensor again 1-2 of them, which version. Thank you.
  5. When i did dual imaging before i rotated one camera to match the other one roughly as much i can so they are both almost in same or very similar orientation, i didn't forget that, i even try to make both targets in the frame like almost 98% matching even most of the stars by edges so i know i will not crop so much between the two, and i will learn about plate solving also so it can help me centering both frames so i don't have big shifts between both, in fact i always crop a single rig results to make the main nebula like standing out, as i didn't like stars by the edges even after calibration and didn't have that BXT in the past, not a big deal for me cropped dual rigs frames, i always take test shots/frame before i start the real imaging, if the exposure and the framing are all good then i start imaging.
  6. That is why i am focusing to have multiple rigs at range of 400-435mm at best i can, so i can crop just fine and still the nebula in the frame is enough, i post an example here for Orion, i have another rigs for much wider, but i like this 400-450mm range from 80-100mm aperture scopes, the example are just two scopes of 90mm f/6 + 0.8x vs. 106mm f/6.6 + 0.6x, both using IMX571 sensor cameras, i didn't add FRA400 there or the lens 300mm f/2.8 + 1.4x.
  7. I haven't experienced HD mounts, i will give a look at it and see what they are, thank you
  8. Not 4 different scopes, but say two are the same which are the 2 TS CF 90s, then adding one different which is my new 106 reducer to 420mm so a bi wider than 90 reduced, and last one is a lens Canon 300mm f2.8 adding 1.4x TC i can reach to 420mm, it is actually a 107mm lens but so fast which is same to 106mm aperture i believe, so it is like 2+1+1, i was thinking about FOV more than aperture size or FL, and i crop the wider frame to have smaller common between the two, so that is also not possible, or instead of the lens i can use my FRA400 native, and using something like 294 sensor to almost matching that 2 90 scopes FOV maybe, i will use the two 90s as the main one, just want to know if adding at least one more scope a bit different but close isn't working.
  9. What is aligning? How is that a problem with different rigs? I saw many collaborations on the net where they used so different rigs maybe up to 8-10 rigs and they managed to have that unique results, i don't know about the processing time they spent, but if it is possible then what is the problem then or where will be the problem of aligning?
  10. Three is also the maximum i will try to have, i won't go out placing 4-6 different rigs to cut it out, but i will try to focus with two or three at most, i think it is enough for long term, then i can add more or even reduce it back to one according to situations i am at, but i can't just decide that if Person A failed with 2 rigs and Person B also failed with 3 rigs then i will fail also with 2/3 rigs, i have items that others aren't happy with and i am happy with and managed to make it works for me nicely, so i know what i am facing and then i have to accept it, i used to carry my AZ-EQ6 mount with tripod and head together and that was killing me for nearly 4 years and i never tried to buy a portable mount, and dissembling/assembling it is even worse than carrying it in/out all the time, so that is the reason i stopped to buy more.
  11. Nice post from you, thank you Well, i didn't enjoy with one setup anyway, and even after i manage to make it as perfect as it can be then it is again short time collecting, and because i don't have any obsy and maybe will never have one then i have to find another way even if it is a bit headache, it is all about the data collected, and not the ease of setup to make, because i know no matter how easy i can manage the setup, one way or another after a while i will feel frustrated to go out many nights to complete very few targets, and back then getting a very fast setup wasn't the option, and with buying more cameras or scopes it is not going back in time now to get fast. i know the cost is like more, but it is what it is with me, i can spend like $3000 in say 2 years or 16 months instead of one time direct, so i continue what i started rather than start again in different path. I will say that if i will have like extra rigs to setup then i can manage to have each done properly, i know the more data and quality of it is what will make the difference, i saw many have one setup done properly and still data isn't that good and also they spent nights over nights to collect data, i did that for like 3 years and i wasn't happy, so i wanted to find a way to accelerate things, and driving to dark skies isn't an option for me, so it came the plan of multiple setup, and i mentioned or maybe not that i saw people who did this multiple successfully even after little efforts and nightmares, but it works and they are happy, and i saw lots and lots of collaborations on AB with people around the world different locations with different setup maybe resulting into like hundreds hours of integration and it is APOD/IOTD like, so it can be done, it is just people keep saying we aren't into multiple setup because it makes us more tired and more nightmare to see, yes, i agree, but i already have that nightmare with one setup and i have my own decision to maximize that and then i maximize the data collected too, and that is all what matter, i tried it once and it worked nicely for me without much headache really because i know how to setup now after years of experience and frustration, then i stopped as i want to add more and just do the same with dual rigs i did, if others still have issues with two/dual rigs no matter what it is their own fault, if i never faced those issues in the past i believe i will keep facing them with many rigs too, and i went slowly to solve each issue so i know where is the issue coming from in my setup.
  12. I did use F2 lens before at F2 [my Canon 135mm F2], and to surprise you, i needed like 3 nights to do Orion M42, one night only Ha, another night RG as i couldn't complete B due to weather, and last night i did B and Lum, i got enough signals but i had bad CA with blue halo, used a mono camera, so the lens wasn't corrected much, and doing it in 3 nights kind of defying the point being a fast optics then, i mean good i faced bad weather in the middle of RGB imaging, that is why i said i wanted to have multiple scopes and cameras, changing filters and managing focus is also important, so if i will have RASA then cabling is a nightmare mainly for dew, also collimating RASA if so isn't friendly thing, i did read cons of RASA by others, and i found out that i prefer the cons of refractors more than RASA or SCT and alike. I didn't mention that i also have Newt, not fast but i can use that Starizona reducer for F4 Newt and i will be at F3, it is fast enough, faster than F5 or F6 or even F4.5, that will be in use for something else, also i have Canon EF lens 300mm f2.8, i was happy collecting data with it at speed really, just stars were so bad, and i wanted to spend full night collecting one data of Ha rather than doing 1hr Ha 1hr OIII and 1hr SII ad call it a night, but if i will put it in use then i should just buy FRA300 to match its focal length, so EF 300 for NB and FRA300 for RGB, two will be sufficient, i even can add FRA400 with 0.7x reducer to be at 280mm, but for now i am trying to stick to 420-432mm one then i do other scopes and lens i have when necessary.
  13. If the price is correct then i have to say that i wasn't able to afford that in short time before, and when i bought my first 90mm APO i didn't have $2000 or more actually, in fact both 90s i managed to buy for about $3200 together [i bought separately], so nearly $1000 less than RASA 8, now i can think about RASA only if i will shoot for Ha/OIII/SII alone, because then i can capture RGB stars with my FRA400 and both are 400, i don't need to buy a fast speed light shift NB filters for this RASA and just use my current NB filters, will not sell my current scopes in favor of a RASA.
  14. I saw his gallery before in the past, i don't know him, some of his images are from Bortle 9, and some are like from Bortle 1-3 for example one of his M45 is Bortle 1 or Andromeda, Saudi has more areas of darker skies than UAE, bigger country and kind of he is lucky to drive around rather than in my crowded country. I can't do that until i buy a second mount that is in same rating of my AZ-EQ6, i was thinking about something cheaper up to at least 10KG maybe which is sufficient for one 90 CF APO with accessories, i will miss the opportunity to buy a mount that is rated for 20KG and a bit expensive and it is a harmonic drive, the expensive i can afford late, the cheaper i can afford within 1-2 months at most, so difficult decision, mostly if i also want to afford that camera for my new scope, but i think that can wait then.
  15. It is ok, your opinion is valuable, i will use one setup when i want to slow down or being calm not in rush, but the plan is there maybe since 2020 when i bought my second mono cooled camera.
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