Jupiter 24th June ovals galore

[neil phillips]

Some lovely ovals on show. Orion 245mm Newtonian. EQ5. QHY 462C. UV IR Cut IR685 Filters. Celestron Ultima 2x Barlow

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 24, 2021 by neil phillips

[CraigT82]

Excellent Neil, conditions are getting better by the day. 

[neil phillips]

7 minutes ago, CraigT82 said:

Excellent Neil, conditions are getting better by the day. 

It has improved. But seeing still very disturbed.  Only so far we can go with this i reckon. Some locations may do better than others. Shooting over houses here which pour heat out at night. Still plenty of detail to be had.

[callisto]

1 hour ago, neil phillips said:

Shooting over houses here which pour heat out at night.

Still great images despite that 

[neil phillips]

1 hour ago, callisto said:

Still great images despite that 

I think a lot of us have that problem. when its baking in the day, it gets radiated at night. Looking foward to some high lunar. And a calmer image to work with

Cheers

[morimarty]

You have captured some lovely detailed images Neil.  I thnk that antares secondary is really doing the job for you. It as picked up some superb contrast in the early morning light. I'm looking forward to see what it can do in some darker Ideal conditions.

[neil phillips]

13 minutes ago, morimarty said:

You have captured some lovely detailed images Neil.  I thnk that antares secondary is really doing the job for you. It as picked up some superb contrast in the early morning light. I'm looking forward to see what it can do in some darker Ideal conditions.

Thanks Martin.  Its surprising we can get this kind of detail this year.. Its nearly always boiling.  Here is a short cropped clip from pipp. The capture this colour shot was taken from. Not using a ADC, not sure if i should be, I wonder if the improvement is worth the hassle. ? 04_17_50_pipp.zip

 

[CraigT82]

I know what you mean with the thermals, the only view south for me is straight down the street in front of my house... which comprises lovely new black asphalt!  shooting over that after a warm day is asking for trouble but I've got no choice unless I go mobile (not likely with a 12" newt).

Looking at your clip I think you might benefit from an ADC, there is a distinct blue fringe at the top and red at the bottom. 

[neil phillips]

2 hours ago, CraigT82 said:

I know what you mean with the thermals, the only view south for me is straight down the street in front of my house... which comprises lovely new black asphalt!  shooting over that after a warm day is asking for trouble but I've got no choice unless I go mobile (not likely with a 12" newt).

Looking at your clip I think you might benefit from an ADC, there is a distinct blue fringe at the top and red at the bottom. 

Yes i saw that. AS2 does such good job with rgb align i wonder how much of a improvement though. Hard to know without comparing and testing. Though i have seen examples on the net showing a improvement. Its the same with de rotation i did a 3 min derotated video. And compared. out of AS/2 the un derotated  video was actually looking better. AS/2 does such good job. With this amount of blur i suspect de rotation isnt achieving much tbh.

Edited June 25, 2021 by neil phillips

[Soligor Rob]

And all from the comfort of your own home, amazing what a fantastic hobby this is, well done.

[CraigT82]

3 hours ago, neil phillips said:

Yes i saw that. AS2 does such good job with rgb align i wonder how much of a improvement though. Hard to know without comparing and testing. Though i have seen examples on the net showing a improvement. Its the same with de rotation i did a 3 min derotated video. And compared. out of AS/2 the un derotated  video was actually looking better. AS/2 does such good job. With this amount of blur i suspect de rotation isnt achieving much tbh.

Yeah I think that's the crux of it really, is there any point chasing those small gains from ADCs/winjupos when the seeing is by far the limiting factor where we are? For me it's a yes as there will be the occasional night when the seeing is perfect and I will want everything else to be perfect too so afterwards I have no regrets about what I might have captured if only I used this or did that.

Saying that though I find that derotation only works well when seeing was good and there are enough clear details visible to align the images properly, if the input images aren't great then the alignment is just guesswork and will probably just make things worse.

 

[neil phillips]

4 hours ago, CraigT82 said:

Yeah I think that's the crux of it really, is there any point chasing those small gains from ADCs/winjupos when the seeing is by far the limiting factor where we are? For me it's a yes as there will be the occasional night when the seeing is perfect and I will want everything else to be perfect too so afterwards I have no regrets about what I might have captured if only I used this or did that.

Saying that though I find that derotation only works well when seeing was good and there are enough clear details visible to align the images properly, if the input images aren't great then the alignment is just guesswork and will probably just make things worse.

 

Pretty much agree with all that. I may at some point get a ADC for the best outcomes. But i am not in a rush. Hope we all make it to next year it will be a good year for jupiter in the UK. Dont think ive got my best this year just yet though. But its going to be limited. You getting any closer to be up and running. Your Fullerscope should do well.

[neil phillips]

7 hours ago, Soligor Rob said:

And all from the comfort of your own home, amazing what a fantastic hobby this is, well done.

Thanks Soligor

[orion25]

On 24/06/2021 at 15:31, neil phillips said:

Some lovely ovals on show. Orion 245mm Newtonian. EQ5. QHY 462C. UV IR Cut IR685 Filters. Celestron Ultima 2x Barlow

 

 

 

 

 

 

Beautiful images, Neil. It's always great seeing Jupiter and Saturn on display!

[neil phillips]

Glad you found  it interesting Reggie

[si@nite]

Great results Neil very commedable some lovely detail on Jupiter nice work indeed!

[Trevor N]

Didn’t think you would get that sort of detail with the planets so low Neil. Brilliant stuff. Trevor

[neil phillips]

Cheers Simon. If only we had real calm air 

[neil phillips]

6 hours ago, Trevor N said:

Didn’t think you would get that sort of detail with the planets so low Neil. Brilliant stuff. Trevor

Thanks Trevor. seeing aside. One thing i would say is nailing focus becomes critical