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Skymax 127 Vs Evostar 80ed for visual


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Greetings!

I'm thinking about my first scope and I've kind of narrowed it down to either the Skymax 127 or Evostar 80ed on an AZ-GTI. I'm only interested in visual observing at present, so wondering which would be the option?

A friend is selling their Evostar 80ed so cost will be about the same regardless of which I plump for.

Thoughts?

Thank you.

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Any thoughts on what sort of targets which would interest you? If lunar and planetary then the Mak would certainly be better, but they have quite a narrow field of view so the refractor would be better for larger open clusters, MilkyWay sweeps etc.

Refractors do have an aesthetic quality to the stars that some of us love and potentially prefer over the resolution benefits of a larger scope, so again alot depends on preferences you may have.

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The refractor will cool down considerably quicker than the Mak.  If you can get the refractor for the cost of a new Mak, I'd go that route.  The 80ED is roughly double the price of the 127 Mak here in the states.

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In my experience, high magnifications for the Moon and Planets are often limited by atmospheric effects, so you may find that the longer inherent focal length doesn't give a lot more usable power as such. 

I've recently bought a 72mm refractor and it's almost totally taken over my viewing, with the 127 Mak often staying in the bag all evening.  Seeing open clusters against the open sky background puts them in context in a way that the much smaller field of view of the Mak just can't match.  

 

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Hi , One thing you havent considered is the weight issue . An ED80 is quite a heavy scope ... i had one and although it worked , a 2" diagonal and a 2" EP made it a bit clumsy on the AZ-Gti mount ... in fact i sold the scope and the buyer had the same issues as me . The ED 80 is a fine scope and deserves its place in anyones collection but the AZ-GTi takes 5kgs max... there is a reason they are supplied with scopes that weigh around 3-3.5 kgs 

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I have both the Mak127 and a Evostar 72ED. Both perform fine on the AZ-GTI for observing, might be taxing the mount with a heavy DSLR though. I think it will depend on your targets, the Mak will favour close up lunar and planetary. The Evostar will favour DSO objects. The 127 with it's long focal length will struggle to fit some of the larger DSOs with the FOV, such as M45 and M31. The Mak coupled with a dedicated astrocam will excel at planetary and close up lunar shots. I only got the 72ED recently for astrophotography (and as a grab and go system with the AZ-GTI) rather than for observing but finding so far that the Mak may will be staying in the my carry bag until the Summer.

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Like others here I would say it depends on the targets you favour. 

I have the Mak 127 and not an ED80 but the ST80.  The Mak is a superb lunar/planetary, globular cluster and double star instrument and I have so far tracked down 80/110 Messiers with it, so it is no slouch in the DSO department.   The extra aperture the Mak delivers over the ED80 will count on DSOs especially if you can grab-and-go to a really dark sky location. I've seen spiral form in M51, dust lane in M82, and form in some of the Virgo/Coma galaxies with the Mak on the best nights.   Its a sharp contrasty view and the difference in star patterns to a refractor is not that huge, I would say that diffraction rings are slightly messier but its quite marginal.  Its robust, doesn't need collimating and with the 127 I've not found UK cool down time to be much of an issue - everything steady after 15-20 minutes outside, which is often how long it takes me to get organised anyway. 

I love my ST80 for widefield clusters - the Mak will just fit the whole of the main parts of the Double Cluster or the central section of the Pleiades for example but features like the Hyades, Alpha Persei, Andromeda Galaxy etc are better in the ST80.  At some point I'd love to upgrade to either an ED72 or ED80.   

The two 'scopes you are choosing between are complimentary - personally if I had to pick just one it would be the Mak, but equally if you are being offered a great deal on the ED80 maybe go for that one first and pick up a second-hand Mak later. As I said they are not fragile so should be able to pick up a good one used when funds allow. 

PS - The AZGTi is great! 

 

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