serbiadarksky Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Sooo when out on the field with mount,scope,dslr,guiding...etc....what i have to connect to the laptop? Only the guiding camera to PC and the dslr to pc? Its an important factor as my laptop have only 2 usb connections no more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightBucket Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Guide camera, mount, DSLR, so get a powered USB hub and connect to the laptop... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carastro Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 I managed with that for years, but once I got into mono imaging and an EFW I needed my 3rd USB, Hubs don't work for me, everything keeps pinging and disconnecting. I have tried 3 different hubs, all powered, then some-one kindly sent me a superdooper Hub which worked for one session and then blew, I am trying to find some-one to take a look at it for me. So when I added a dual rig I added a 2nd laptop. Carole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serbiadarksky Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 12 minutes ago, LightBucket said: Guide camera, mount, DSLR, so get a powered USB hub and connect to the laptop... Mount? I wont control it with eqmod, only phd2 for guiding, i fought that i connect the guide cam to laptoo and than guide can to mount via st4, why i have to connect mount to laptop? Uh im confused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serbiadarksky Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 15 minutes ago, carastro said: I managed with that for years, but once I got into mono imaging and an EFW I needed my 3rd USB, Hubs don't work for me, everything keeps pinging and disconnecting. I have tried 3 different hubs, all powered, then some-one kindly sent me a superdooper Hub which worked for one session and then blew, I am trying to find some-one to take a look at it for me. So when I added a dual rig I added a 2nd laptop. Carole Its look like they can be very buggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey-T Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 5 minutes ago, serbiadarksky said: Mount? I wont control it with eqmod, only phd2 for guiding, i fought that i connect the guide cam to laptoo and than guide can to mount via st4, why i have to connect mount to laptop? Uh im confused You only need to connect the mount to the laptop if you're using pulse guiding as opposed to ST4. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carastro Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Quote You only need to connect the mount to the laptop if you're using pulse guiding as opposed to ST4. I use ST4 Dave and still need to connect to the laptop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serbiadarksky Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, Davey-T said: You only need to connect the mount to the laptop if you're using pulse guiding as opposed to ST4. Dave No, i will use phd2 for guiding, so i dont have to connect the mount to pc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serbiadarksky Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, carastro said: I use ST4 Dave and still need to connect to the laptop. Will i have to connect the neq5 or heq5? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carastro Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Depends which guide camera you get. I have a QHY5 and it has a USB port and a guide port. With the ST4 cable I connect one end to the QHY5 and the other end goes into the guide port on the HEQ5/NEQ6. Then the USB cables joins the QHY5 to the laptop. If you get a guide camera that does not have a guide port you'll probably need extra USBs so in your case that is best avoided. HTH Carole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serbiadarksky Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, carastro said: Depends which guide camera you get. I have a QHY5 and it has a USB port and a guide port. With the ST4 cable I connect one end to the QHY5 and the other end goes into the guide port on the HEQ5/NEQ6. Then the USB cables joins the QHY5 to the laptop. If you get a guide camera that does not have a guide port you'll probably need extra USBs so in your case that is best avoided. HTH Carole What about the QHY5R-llc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carastro Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Quote What about the QHY5R-llc? I am not familiar with that guide camera, but it looks like it is a colour camera, it is better to get a mono camera for guiding as it is more sensitive and will make guiding and finding a suitable guide star much easier. This is the back of a QHY5 showing the two ports you will need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serbiadarksky Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 Just now, carastro said: I am not familiar with that guide camera, but it looks like it is a colour camera, it is better to get a mono camera for guiding as it is more sensitive and will make guiding and finding a suitable guide star much easier. This is the back of a QHY5 showing the two ports you will need. The left connect with st4 to mout and right with usb to pc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carastro Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterCPC Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 I use a QHY 5-11 colour guide cam. The ST4 port connects to the guide port of the mount and the power connects to the laptop via USB. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serbiadarksky Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 25 minutes ago, carastro said: Correct. I was talking about this https://www.tavcso-mikroszkop.hu/termek/alccd-qhy5r-iic-vezeto--es-bolygokamera Got st4 and usb port in it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serbiadarksky Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 24 minutes ago, PeterCPC said: I use a QHY 5-11 colour guide cam. The ST4 port connects to the guide port of the mount and the power connects to the laptop via USB. Peter https://www.tavcso-mikroszkop.hu/termek/alccd-qhy5r-iic-vezeto--es-bolygokamera This one? What you think about this? I think you can auto translate the site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterCPC Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Could not translate. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie85 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 28 minutes ago, serbiadarksky said: https://www.tavcso-mikroszkop.hu/termek/alccd-qhy5r-iic-vezeto--es-bolygokamera This one? What you think about this? I think you can auto translate the site Looks fine to me. It says it has an st4 port so you should be fine with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serbiadarksky Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 35 minutes ago, geordie85 said: Looks fine to me. It says it has an st4 port so you should be fine with it. And its only 130€ + get back 20% vat!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carastro Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Other than it being colour it looks fine. Colour will work, but it doesn't see many stars in comparison to a Mono camera, therefore it makes it more difficult, as you'll need to make sure you can manipluate the guidescope to find a star bright enough for it to see. A mono camera would make your life a lot easier. See if there is a mono version of it. Carole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serbiadarksky Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 10 minutes ago, carastro said: Other than it being colour it looks fine. Colour will work, but it doesn't see many stars in comparison to a Mono camera, therefore it makes it more difficult, as you'll need to make sure you can manipluate the guidescope to find a star bright enough for it to see. A mono camera would make your life a lot easier. See if there is a mono version of it. Carole There is a mono, 60€ more than color, as i readed the comment with the linked camera the person say that he always had a guide star in the field, but i know that mono is better but more expensive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carastro Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Well it is your decision at the end of the day, but I hope you don't regret it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbie alert Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 When pulse guiding the camera connects to the laptop and then the laptop to the mount via a cable to the handset..my camera (Skyris doesn't have a guideport) I'd have a mono over a colour camera personally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serbiadarksky Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 9 minutes ago, newbie alert said: When pulse guiding the camera connects to the laptop and then the laptop to the mount via a cable to the handset..my camera (Skyris doesn't have a guideport) I'd have a mono over a colour camera personally Well, first i will do just unguided with neq5 or heq5 with 130/650 PDS and than i will add guiding later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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