Kaptain Klevtsov Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 This arrived today, along with the 200 f/5 Skywatcher Newt. As it hasn't got dark yet you will have to wait until I get something to point it at.OK on to my first impressions of the mount.This is my first Astro mount so I have nothing to compare it with, other than photgraphic tripods that I own. It is big and heavy so it ought to be very stable.The synscan bit comes as a DIY add-on, which I didn't expect. It has straightforward insructions and the process, although fiddly, went painlessly. Both drive motors, drive gears, the main PCB and control box assembly get changed. These "spare" bits are now in storage.I was very surprised to find how much stuff yuo get in the package. I had been shopping for the little necessary items like a power lead to connect to a cigarette lighter socket and one of those portable power packs. These came in the package! I now have spares of these too, might be letting them go unless I need two power packs for the mount, edw heaters, electric socks etc.I am now waitinig for the power pack to charge (the one with the kit) so that i can do the setup and check the operation of the beast.Will let you know how it goes.Captain Chaos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naz Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 So you are to blame for the weather over the next two weeks!!!!!! :p :(Keep us informed of your progress and results, and hope you get a clear sky sooner rather than later.nabban Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaptain Klevtsov Posted February 14, 2006 Author Share Posted February 14, 2006 Cheers mate. Looking like I might get a go tonight judging by Met office IR sattelite pics. At least visually. The thing came with an SLR adapter that takes a T adapter - that means that the webcam monstrosity AND the Nikon DSLR could be bolted on easily. Lots of playing options now!(trots off to look at the charge level)Will boot it up when its charged.C yaCaptain Chaos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazOC Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 I look forward to your report CC. Hopefully tonight eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinB Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Should be some clear gaps tonight but watch out for the showers!!! Good luck and very interested to hear how you get on.Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OXO Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Congrats on the new gear i hope it's clear for you very soon and look forward to your report James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick.G. Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Glad to hear the scope has finally arrived CC .Look forward to your report!All the best Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaptain Klevtsov Posted February 14, 2006 Author Share Posted February 14, 2006 Well I got to have a bash tonight but it was a little disappointing and very enlightening. Hung the Newt. on it and switched it on.The first thing the Synscan asks for when it's switched on is alignment. Well it asked me to point it at stars that a) I don't know and b)I couldn't see for the clouds. So I skipped this and guess what? It wouldn't find anything.So now I know that it's not as easy as I thought, because I have to learn what the stars are called. Not quite the same as the GPS systems I've read about. I'd read the manual before ordering it and assumed that the stars would be close enough to be unmistakeable i.e. easy to zero in on. This was not the case. My best guess is that I'd polar aligned on something other than Polaris, which would [removed word] it up a bit, or I hadn't got the tripod level accurately enough.The next bit was better, manually pointing it at Saturn to check the telescope. The tracking was spot on, except for the wind blowing the 'scope about.As this was my first go with ANY telescope I can't offer a comparison, that will come when I have a go with the other toy.Hopefully tomorrow the clouds will have gone (yeah right!!), i'll be nice and warm (ditto) and I'll know all the names of the stars.Still, I had a good time out in the cold with my new toys and once the bugs are ironed out, we're off!PS I did take some snaps, but they were all rubbish because of the wind.Much more to come, watch this space.Captain Chaos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazOC Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 If I were you CC I'd enjoy the scope and suss the GOTO out later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinB Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 You must a least have found Polaris if Saturn was tracking well. GPS doesn't solve everything. The NS8 GPS will in theory work out level find north and then in GPS alignment mode will slew to 2 appropriate stars. You still have to centre them to improve the alignment. Not good if they are covered by cloud. For good alignment you also need the stars to be well apart from each other, preferably 90deg. It wouldn't be very good using sirius and procyon for instance. I don't think you need to know that many stars fortunately. Anyone would have struggled to use goto last night I think.Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaptain Klevtsov Posted February 15, 2006 Author Share Posted February 15, 2006 The main reason I got it was because I don't know where stuff is. Down to earth with a bump there.After cogitating last night, it occurred to me that there is no feedback from either axis for the goto to reference. It has to go by dead reckoning, so unless its aligned it won't find anything.Maybe tonight.The telescope was amazing. Wherever it was pointed at a hole in the clouds there were LOTS of stars. Found Andromeda and had a look at that - easily visible, though the GEM was wierd to wrestle with. Oh and everything is the wrong way round!As was pointed out, last night was dreadful cloud wise so I am thanking my lucky stars that I found anything at all.Much more to comeCaptain Chaos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Hi CC,You can keep scrolling through the list of stars until you get something familiar. At the moment it should give you the option of Pollux and Betelguese as two alignment stars.Although i skip the initial alignment stage and go onto inputing location, date and time. Then do the 2 star alignment.You're right, it's not as easy as a GPS based system but once you've done it a few times it becomes an easy task.It's a good system CC. Don't get too disappointed.RegardsRuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaptain Klevtsov Posted February 16, 2006 Author Share Posted February 16, 2006 That's the problem, scrolling down until I find something familiar. "come on you beep, i know where Polaris is, pick THAT one" etc.I'm not familiar, or even casually aquainted with the stars, so it's like this:-1)Wait for a star to be suggested2)Trot off into the light with the printout from Starry night3)Locate star (or not) on map4)Back out to 'scope5)Try to locate target6)Swear at tree7)Scroll down again8)RepeatMore to come later as it's work time so i put a new pic. on the website http://www.gas.uk.net/pics/M42.jpgThis is with the Newt +2x Barlow 30 Secs @1600iso single frame test.It seems like it's a bit wobbly with the Barlow, or the stepper motor steps are too big. Need to try STUFF.As I said, nore to come.Captain Chaos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinB Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 I think I am about 2 weeks ahead of you CC. These are pretty easy - Mizar (Ursa Major), Capella (Auriga), Betelgeuse + Rigel(orion), Sirius (Canis major), Procyon(canis minor) and Regulus (leo). Early evening add Vega and Deneb to the NW. I am trying to remember a couple of stars in Cassiopia but have forgotten them now!!! These give you a good spread and are easy to spot.Get that star chart out CC Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 CC, I have some Synscan stuff i've downloaded from around the web. Including star finder charts for the alignment process and a guide on using the mount with an autoguider.I've heat sealed the maps....they are very handy!Let me know if you are interested and I'll email you everything I have.RegardsRuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinB Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Do you have a link to the stars for alignment site Russ? Sounds very useful.Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Martin, I'm just uploading the zip file to my website. I'll give you a link the second it's done. Russ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinB Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Thanks Russ. I'll get the laminator warmed up Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Okay Martin, upload complete. Bleddy Lycos is soooo sloooow. Here's the link, you'll need to copy and paste it into your browser.http://members.lycos.co.uk/myastrophotos/SkyScanStarCharts.zipHope you find them some help Martin/CCRuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinB Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Link doesn't seem to work Russ. Tries to download the file but not able to Will try again when I get home.Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Hi Martin,Did you click on the link? Only that won't work. Copy and paste the link into the address bar of IE and click Go. Should work hopefully. I've just tried it from work and it seems okay.Many regardsRuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 RussJust tried and I can't do it either, and yep, I copied the link :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radioactive Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 That's the problem, scrolling down until I find something familiar. "come on you beep, i know where Polaris is, pick THAT one" etc.I'm not familiar, or even casually aquainted with the stars, so it's like this:-1)Wait for a star to be suggested2)Trot off into the light with the printout from Starry night3)Locate star (or not) on map4)Back out to 'scope5)Try to locate target6)Swear at tree7)Scroll down again8)RepeatMore to come later as it's work time so i put a new pic. on the website http://www.gas.uk.net/pics/M42.jpgThis is with the Newt +2x Barlow 30 Secs @1600iso single frame test.It seems like it's a bit wobbly with the Barlow, or the stepper motor steps are too big. Need to try STUFF.As I said, nore to come.Captain Chaosrolao I can see you are getting on famously with your new gear, cc its a fantastic hobbie ain't it?Where else can you be suprised then shocked followed by highly delighted then totaly bemused only to become more and more dedicated to it ?And thats all in one nights session with the gear a planishere would help you no doubt.We will have to put you forward in the competition section for most amusing reports :p :shock: :? 8) :x :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Anyone who wants a copy, just give me your email and i'll post it straight away.RegardsRuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaptain Klevtsov Posted February 16, 2006 Author Share Posted February 16, 2006 Yes please Russ. You can use chaos@burners.co.uk to e-mail me stuff.TIACaptain Chaos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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