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Adobe moving to subscription payment model

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earth titan

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I'm already on a monthly fee basis for CS6. Works a treat!

Okay it's £14 a month, but over the year that's about £160. If you buy a full copy if CS6 now, it's big (and I mean big) bucks - I've seen it for sale at around 600 notes and as soon as you buy it, you're out of date.

Typed by me on my fone, using fumms... Excuse eny speling errurs.

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I'm already on a monthly fee basis for CS6. Works a treat!

Okay it's £14 a month, but over the year that's about £160. If you buy a full copy if CS6 now, it's big (and I mean big) bucks - I've seen it for sale at around 600 notes and as soon as you buy it, you're out of date.

Typed by me on my fone, using fumms... Excuse eny speling errurs.

How does this work? Do you download the software which only works as long as you pay the subcription? Or do you use the application on line somehow? Can you use the software on more than one machine - say a lap top and desk top?

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On their website right now, PS CC is £17.58 or £8.78 monthly if you upgrade. Compares with amazon prices for CS6 of £631 or £190 for upgrade version. The break even period is 36 or 21 months respectively. If we assume a major version release every couple of years or so and you always keep up to date, it's about worth it. If you only update every 2 or 3 versions, you're going to pay a lot more.

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My suspicion is that Adobe (and probably Microsoft too, who appear to be doing down the same route with Office) have realised that many people have reached the point where they see no need to upgrade because they have all the functionality they want (and probably a lot more). There are corporates where IT policy is not to upgrade until it's absolutely unavoidable.

In this situation they may have taken a view that their income is going to drop and are therefore attempting to change their licensing model to give them a permanent income stream from anyone who wants to use their products.

James

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I also read on the BBC that YouTube is going to be charging for videos :rolleyes:...

It would be better to have full copies available and monthly subscriptions, if you're going to upgrade every year then a subscription makes financial sense (at the moment at least), but obviously upgrading a laptop / desktop every year gets more expensive than that! However, if you only buy it once and keep the computer for over a decade, why not get the full version?

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I also read on the BBC that YouTube is going to be charging for videos :rolleyes:...

I think the intent is that people should be able to upload content for which they choose to charge, rather than youtube charging for all content.

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There are of course other ways of 'getting' Photoshop. :rolleyes: Not that I would condone this behaviour. :shocked:

Can't believe you'd suggest such a thing....

Posted via Tapatalk on an ageing iPhone so please excuse any erroneous spellings or accidental profanities!

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I think the intent is that people should be able to upload content for which they choose to charge, rather than youtube charging for all content.

James

I think that's what the intention is too, but I can foresee that, if it's adopted, every video (save for a few) will be charged.

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earth titan

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How does this work? Do you download the software which only works as long as you pay the subcription? Or do you use the application on line somehow? Can you use the software on more than one machine - say a lap top and desk top?

You just download the program and it runs just like a normal application. I presume it renews its license every 30 days or just stops working.

I think you can only run one version, but I've not looked into it in detail. I run a version on my macbook and that's all.

I run my own business (just me and SWMBO) and as I use my laptop for work as well as play, I can't afford to have hooky software with keygens, cracks etc. Too much risk of viruses or prosecution. The subscription method just makes economic sense for me.

I know there is free software out there, but PS just does the job.

As for the subscription model, I hope everyone goes over to this method. Perhaps it will mean they stop rushing new updates out before they are ready just to increase revenue, and work on making the existing versions stable.

Typed by me on my fone, using fumms... Excuse eny speling errurs.

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You can run the cloud version on two different computers at the same time any combo of platforms... The license is checked every 30 days but it will run for up to 180 days if there is no internet connection available. Student and Teacher Edition is available at reduced subscription rate... The rates vary you pay more if you decide to pay monthly without making a 12 month commitment.

You also get 20GB of cloud storage as part of your subscription.

All the info is out there if you look for it...http://www.adobe.com/uk/products/creativecloud/faq.html

Peter...

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Micrsoft have been moving in this direction for a while now, their corporate licencing for Office and other products now requires either a connection to Microsoft licence servers or a local licence server, volume licence editions contact one or the other server once a month to maintain the licence. As you might expect though, everything is still up in the air with so many different editions and licencing schemes, it's as if Microsoft have just tried every method they can think of (and some that don't make any sense to anyone!), and now just can't be bothered to tidy it up. Then of course they have the web apps versions too, no doubt in an attempt to compete with Google Docs (which is free).

I still haven't really figured out how the terminal services licence works, it seems like it can be installed normally just like any other version.

Give me open source any day for the typical home user over all that subscription nonsense! It may be quirky, but it's capable and free.

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Give me open source any day for the typical home user over all that subscription nonsense! It may be quirky, but it's capable and free.

Moves to subscription licensing models could be a real boon to open source, I think. When it's a choice between Microsoft having you over a barrel for eternity or using OpenOffice/LibreOffice, say, I can see quite a few people deciding that the latter makes more sense. Many users would barely notice the difference.

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Quite a few people are using GIMP now, I think. One of the problems until very recently was that it only worked for 8-bit colour. In fact I'm not sure that even now anything but the unstable release supports 16-bit or more fully. Once it does I think it will probably do an awful lot of what most people want of it.

James

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I have tried to love GIMP, but it's a bit on the clunky side. Photoshop has an intuitive feel to it which GIMP lacks (at least for me). If you're looking for an alternative to those programs for processing AP images, then plenty of free options exist. The image processing techniques in "amateur" AP bear a lot of resemblance to processing that's done in various scientific fields where images are acquired. Scientists and programmers working in these fields have produced tools to make their work possible and that stuff is all available on-line. These tools aren't "painting programs" in the way GIMP is, for instance. Instead, they're used for tasks such as altering contrast, cropping, filtering, aligning image stacks, histogram equalization, etc.

For instance, ImageJ: http://rsbweb.nih.gov/ij/ is used in biological imaging, but it's pretty general purpose. There's a related project known as Fiji: http://fiji.sc/Fiji There's this one too: http://icy.bioimageanalysis.org/ There are also image processing tools in Python, Perl, and Octave. But those get more hard-core because you have to learn the programming language. In addition to all those there are obviously also the freeware astro-specific programs which no doubt everyone here is familiar with.

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As for the subscription model, I hope everyone goes over to this method. Perhaps it will mean they stop rushing new updates out before they are ready just to increase revenue, and work on making the existing versions stable.

I hope everyone doesn't go over to this model. But here we have to think about where it could make sense, and where it wouldn't. For example, lower cost software (say, anything under £100) isn't going to be as viable on this model as micro-transaction costs will really eat into that. So I think a subscription based model would only be more appropriate for higher cost software that is frequently updated.

The sad thing is it does seem to make sense for business users who need to keep up to date, but it hurts the home user who would update less frequently. Of course, the latter are not so significant an income stream so Adobe isn't really going to cry over losing them.

As for alternatives, I never really got on with the Gimp interface. I've just downloaded the latest version of Paintshop Pro to try as I've still got and use version 7 from 2000 on my system, alongside some more recent software too!

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earth titan

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So is this an opportunity for someone to produce an astronomy package with all the features of PS specific to our needs? Hopefully at a more affordable price?

I would suggest Pixinsight is pretty close. Not cheap though!

Typed by me on my fone, using fumms... Excuse eny speling errurs.

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