Astro-Nova Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Need EP's and barlow. What are your opinion about these?....Bresser 4 piece eyepiece starter scope upgrade kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Poor I'm afraid - 2 Kellner eyepieces and a Huygens type. The barlow lens looks very average but is described as the "jewel" of the kit which is more of a comment on the other components I feel.Better to get a single decent eyepiece, possibly a used one, rather than those. One of the eyepieces (the Huygens) is actually worse than those supplied as standard with scopes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeSkywatcher Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 They look a bit like Kellner EP's..............pretty rubbish. Avoid them. If you are dead set on buying a kit then the Revelation Photographic EP kit is considered about the best:http://www.firstlightoptics.com/eyepiece-sets/revelation-photo-visual-eyepiece-kit.htmlDefo do not buy the Bresser kit you linked to. You have an 8" scope...............it deserves better (even a 3" scope deserves better).A better choice would be 2 or 3 quality EP's such as Vixen NPL,BST etc. And if you want a barlow then a TAL 2x or 3x.The cost would be about the same but the quality would be 10 fold (if not more). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
182570 Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Not wishing to be over critical,but reading that short ad. there were three silly spelling mistakes in it re:Barral,Starage,Acessory,we all make mistakes on this site but this is a professional company,it doesn't give me much confidence in dealing with them if they can't get their ad right before publishing:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinker1947 Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 At the end of the day your going to want good EP's start now and bit further down the road you will be well pleased with them, quality will win... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal-Wolf Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 NAFF! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro-Nova Posted March 10, 2012 Author Share Posted March 10, 2012 Ok ok, I got the message lol. Thank you all. I will have a look for better quality, using your knowledge of course and opinions cause that be the best way to find out if an item is any good practically Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro-Nova Posted March 10, 2012 Author Share Posted March 10, 2012 First Light Optics - Skywatcher SP Plossl eyepieceswhat about these? they are quite affordable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeSkywatcher Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Depending on budget...............keep window shopping. For £30 you can get some seriously sweet EP's.NPL,BST etc.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyper Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 I've heard these are pretty decent (and they are pretty cheap, at £30). First Light Optics - Vixen NPL eyepieceshttp://skysthelimit.org.uk/telescope%20eyepieces.html (BST explorer) And these should do good too (They are more expensive though, so if the budget allows it sometime they should do good).First Light Optics - Celestron X-Cel LX eyepieceFirst Light Optics - Vixen NLV EyepiecesRemember that you have a fast scope (f/6), and it's not as forgiving with bad eyepieces as a slower scope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro-Nova Posted March 10, 2012 Author Share Posted March 10, 2012 Ill add them to my bookmarks, thanks guys! my god, so many options! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wired2moon Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Hey astro, guess it's all down to budget but for same scope as you have I've ordered BST explorer 12mm, vixen npl 30mm and Tal x2 Barlow - each is around £40 and that selection gives 4 well spaced magnifications with quality views, or so I'm assured (they'd better!). If budget is an issue then just sell more stuff on eBay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 ....my god, so many options!Too right ! - choosing eyepieces is more complex than choosing scopes in some ways Having a tight budget can actually help though. As long as it's not too tight !. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro-Nova Posted March 10, 2012 Author Share Posted March 10, 2012 thats true that is. At the moment I think I can spend £40 off my monthly wage once in a while, so I deffo will improve my collection. However I will have to look around and add as many bookmarks as possible and then sort them out best quality for decent price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeSkywatcher Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Vixen NLV are not cheap. The NPL offer better quality views at a fraction of the price.IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro-Nova Posted March 11, 2012 Author Share Posted March 11, 2012 ...........If budget is an issue then just sell more stuff on eBay lol thanks for the tip, unfortunately I run out of my possessions haha. But I might bump onto something again to sell.Money is an issue but oh well, I did choose an expensive hobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeSkywatcher Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 lol thanks for the tip, unfortunately I run out of my possessions haha. But I might bump onto something again to sell.Money is an issue but oh well, I did choose an expensive hobbyAn expensive hobby that CAN be done on a budget. Once you are happy with what you have and can see....................that REALLY is all that counts.Thje main thing is to enjoy the hobby................at any price/cost.There really is no right and wrong in astronomy........................A 3" scope can give its owner amazing views just as a 20" can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wired2moon Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Bit by bit is the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro-Nova Posted March 11, 2012 Author Share Posted March 11, 2012 true it is all affordable just not at once, so taking it step by step is the way its gotta be done. But when you get a wow once you wanna go further to get a WOW haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawsio Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 On the same subject, I've watched the SkopesNSkies video about eyepieces and he suggests that the cheap kellners are still very good for planetary viewing - Is this the case?Thinking of getting a 6mm to get me some bigger views of Saturn and Jupiter but from the comments on here it looks like they're pretty poor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brantuk Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Instead of a kit - you can't go wrong with a Baader 8-24mm zoom as a good general purpose starter eyepiece. And it'll work great in your scope. It's like 5 pieces in 1 and a far superior quality to supplied eyepieces. You can also attach a dslr to it with the right connector ring. Very flexible and useful item to have in any collection - I still use mine regularly to this day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro-Nova Posted March 11, 2012 Author Share Posted March 11, 2012 you can't go wrong with a Baader 8-24mm zoom as a good general purpose starter eyepiece. And it'll work great in your scope. It's like 5 pieces in 1 and a far superior quality to supplied eyepieces. You can also attach a dslr to it with the right connector ring. Very flexible and useful item to have in any collection oh that is rather attractive reply, Ill look into that one, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiddles Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Wait a few months and invest in the Hyperion zoom 8 - 24mm, its fabulous. I found it very hard to justify spending almost as much on one zoom EP as the scope, BUT as I intend to stay in the hobby a long time the EP will stay long after the scope has been upgraded. I figured that buying something that will stay with me in the hobby is better than several upgrades to eventually get what I wanted. The Hyperion really shows what the Dob is capable of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twotter Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Wait a few months and invest in the Hyperion zoom 8 - 24mm, its fabulous. I found it very hard to justify spending almost as much on one zoom EP as the scope, BUT as I intend to stay in the hobby a long time the EP will stay long after the scope has been upgraded. I figured that buying something that will stay with me in the hobby is better than several upgrades to eventually get what I wanted. The Hyperion really shows what the Dob is capable of.The Hyperion zoom is very popular but the field of view at 24mm is 50 degrees. For less than half the price a 32mm Panaview gives 70 degrees for much better widefield views. For a quarter of the price a £30 32mm plossl gives 52 degrees and is a good budget option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S1m0n Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 if its for cheapness for now I picked up one of thesehttp://www.amazon.co.uk/Celestron-94307-AstroMaster-Accessory-Kit/dp/B004KMC0UC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1331493761&sr=8-2Not top of the range but good for its price and you get couple of filters too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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