martin_h Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Whilst sat in the obs just now I heard a noise behind me! A mouse!!eeek!Cheeky sod. I have a sack of fish food in the obs, Its' close to the pond, its eaten its way through and started on the food........3 traps are now in there. Just got to remember not to blunder around in the dark now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbithutch Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Rat shot in a .22 cal. should take care of him. Are you allowed to do that there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veracocha Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 I am far from a bambi'ist but why would you want to do him in, exactly the same thing happened to me the weekend (my bird food) and I was pleased for the company. It wasn't alarmed when I reached out to lift him down onto the floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_h Posted March 12, 2011 Author Share Posted March 12, 2011 I am far from a bambi'ist but why would you want to do him in, exactly the same thing happened to me the weekend (my bird food) and I was pleased for the company. It wasn't alarmed when I reached out to lift him down onto the floor.Thats all very well, I have nothing against mice, but I won't be happy if they start to chew data cables etc....... I have trapped 6 so far - all adults, imagine if they nested in there!!! I'd be over run:mad:7 now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_h Posted March 12, 2011 Author Share Posted March 12, 2011 8 now!!!! And I'm not killing them....Just catching them and letting them go down the street......probably to return in an hour LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarySkater Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Martin, is that 8 mice, or 1 mouse 8 times...? Next time, try a dab of Tippex on it so you'll know it again.Mary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photosbykev Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Martin, is that 8 mice, or 1 mouse 8 times...? Next time, try a dab of Tippex on it so you'll know it again.Maryif you use some glow in the dark paint instead of tippex you would avoid stepping on them as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freff Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Rat shot in a .22 cal. should take care of him. Are you allowed to do that there?Air gun or Rimfire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_h Posted March 12, 2011 Author Share Posted March 12, 2011 9 now, and there is still at leats 1 more, I can hear it mooving about as I type this LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbithutch Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Air gun or Rimfire?Rimfire .22. Air pistol is .177. Semi-auto CCL carry is .40mm S&W. Revolver is a 100 year-old .32 cal. S&W that my Dad bought used over 90 years ago. Shotgun is 12 ga. Ithaca double barrel dating to WWI. Don't keep a deer gun any more.Mice are vermin. They multiply very rapidly when there is food present - including fish food. They carry and spread disease. They gnaw and damage things indiscriminately. I've had them chew the wiring out of a pickup truck.Letting them live is compounding the problem or just giving it to your neighbor, IMO. Would you capture and release rattlesnakes down the street?Of course, that's a Texas point of view - where we DO have rattlesnakes, moccasins, copperheads, coral snakes, scorpions, black widows and tarantulas - and your mileage may vary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photosbykev Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Rimfire .22. Air pistol is .177. Semi-auto CCL carry is .40mm S&W. Revolver is a 100 year-old .32 cal. S&W that my Dad bought used over 90 years ago. Shotgun is 12 ga. Ithaca double barrel dating to WWI. Don't keep a deer gun any more.Mice are vermin. They multiply very rapidly when there is food present - including fish food. They carry and spread disease. They gnaw and damage things indiscriminately. I've had them chew the wiring out of a pickup truck.Letting them live is compounding the problem or just giving it to your neighbor, IMO. Would you capture and release rattlesnakes down the street?Of course, that's a Texas point of view - where we DO have rattlesnakes, moccasins, copperheads, coral snakes, scorpions, black widows and tarantulas - and your mileage may vary.but they are really really cute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Letting them live is compounding the problem or just giving it to your neighbor, IMO. Would you capture and release rattlesnakes down the street?Yep I would. Just because you dont lke em doesnt mean they dont have a right to exist.PS I can think of at least one particular nieghbour who would be a wonderful recipient! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbithutch Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Letting them live is compounding the problem or just giving it to your neighbor, IMO. Would you capture and release rattlesnakes down the street?Yep I would. Just because you dont lke em doesnt mean they dont have a right to exist.PS I can think of at least one particular nieghbour who would be a wonderful recipient!Glad I'm not a neighbor on the receiving end of your generosity. As for rights, you are anthropmorphosizing. Animals don't have rights; humans have rights granted by law. Animals are protected under law from abusive treatment and cruely but they are not ceded legal rights - only protections and those only when they present no threat, hazard, or nuisance. The fact that someone holds the opinion that they are cute or that they deserve to be allowed to live is incontrovertible, but that does not rise to granting rights to animals nor does it make killing them wrong when they cause problems. There are many in this area who keep pets but fail to neuter or sterilize them. They breed and the offspring are unwanted. The irresponsible breeders claim that "the offspring have a right to live" and take them out into the edge of town- or even out to the countryside - where they create attraction for prey animals that then move one to farm animals when the domestic over breeding supply is consumed. If they survive, their life is the cruelest form of punishment with starvation, maiming, and disease with no medical care the norm.No! Tis far more humane to do the right thing. Doing anything else is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parus major Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 The correct method for marking mice is to cut knotches in their fur on the middle of their backs. I did it with mine and found where they went and what they got up to fascinating. Snails as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheThing Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 I think we'll have to agree to disagree before this thread runs wild (ho, ho!)We Brits are famous for being animal lovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychobilly Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Furry Snails.... fascinating.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parus major Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Tippex is for snails, fur is for rodents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RascalUK Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 They multiply very rapidly when there is food present They carry and spread disease. They gnaw and damage things indiscriminately. I've had them chew the wiring out of a pickup truck..Unfortunately you could be talking about the kids round here with the exception of the pickup maybe. We don't shoot them either. And some people think the US has gun probs? Shooting mice? Too strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
great_bear Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Would you capture and release rattlesnakes down the street?Actually, to do so would break the law in the UK I believe. "Releasing vermin" is an offence. This leads to the peculiar situation that if you rescue a squirrel because it has hurt its paw, you then have to find an organisation to look after it for life, since you're not allowed to release it back where you rescued it - which seems a bit odd.By the way, I notice that your viewpoint is echoed in the book Astronomy Hacks:Arm yourself- Yes, we know this is controversial, but we consider it good advice, particularly if you observe at remote locations in areas where rabies is endemic or there are poisonous snakes or large predators. Robert generally brings a .44 revolver or 12-gauge riot shotgun to observing sessions.- Robert Bruce Thompson and Barbara Fritchman Thompson, Astronomy Hacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiltonstar Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Maybe the best solution (mice, possibly snakes, but probably not neighbour's brats) is to let nature take its natural course........acquire or rent a cat! Mine sits by me as I sit outside with my scope. She occasionally heads off into the bushes and takes out something small and squeaky. Beats shooting them as it spoilss your night vision I believe.Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
great_bear Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Beats shooting them as it spoils your night vision I believe.- and your night-adapted hearing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sailor Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 I have plenty of wildlife in my garden and love it, am best mates with a pair of doves and they give me endless pleasure. They live in an evergreen behind and above my obsy, as I sit on the chair I get covered by twigs, I do wonder at times how this pair will ever get a nest built as for every 100 twigs the male brings in 99 will fall to to ground. This has giving me endless amusement but at the same time I have felt sorry for them and each day I gather up the twigs and somehow push them back up. For the rest of the garden it's a wildlife haven and love it Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solarwallace Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Mice are vermin. They multiply very rapidly when there is food present - including fish food. They carry and spread disease. They gnaw and damage things indiscriminately. Sounds like people to me;)We caught a mouse when I was a student. All stood around looking at it. Fed it some cheese, and let it go outside. House full of vegetarians you see. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickK Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Rats and Mice urine can transmit Limes disease which is nasty.Just invite the local cats around to visit.. the mice/rats will soon move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sailor Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Have a cat, waste of space at hunting, over fed, over scared and over loved Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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