goldblade1983 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 HiJust received QHY5 cameraNo leads and no driversI have bought a USB2 cable.Had a look at driver options - very very confused.There seems to be references to lots of different drivers, .exe files. rar files etc. etc.I've tried installing certain drivers etc, plugging in camera to be told that it hasn't been recognised. Does anyone have a step by step guide to getting the camera to work (i'm running XP). Also links to the relevant drivers as want to make sure i have the right ones. PS I've downloaded and installed ASCOM 6.1 and PHD software.Many thanksBrianPS why oh why does EVERYTHING with astronomy have to be so complicated and not straight forward! ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thalestris24 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Hi BrianDid you buy it second hand? The qhy cameras normally come with usb lead, and cd with software. Are you going to use it as a guide cam? I assume as you have phd and ascom, you'll be guiding with it.The drivers are on the qhyccd page: http://qhyccd.com/en/top/download/ under qhy5 (not to be confused with qhy5v, qhy5t or qhy5l-ii !!)There are 2 drivers of usual interest - 1) the native driver and 2) the ascom driver (qhy5ascom-v40.zip). The native one appears to require installation followed by download and installation of a separate update. It also looks like it might be a 64bit driver - just judging by it's name. Strange. Anyway, it's maybe better to just stick with the ascom driver if you're only using it as a guide cam.Both drivers are zip files. Just click on the associated links and select 'open' in your browser.The ascom one, at least, should run under XP ok (with the ascom platform installed first - plus you also need Microsoft .NET Framework as a pre-requisite.Oh, I got this from the ascom page - note the .net framework instructions: "Installing the ASCOM Platform on Windows XPMany of us use Windows XP in the observatory because of its simplicity and stability. The ASCOM Platform depends on Microsoft technology that is included in Windows 7 but was not included in Windows XP. This has caused confusion because the ASCOM Platform installer asks for Microsoft .NET Framework x.x, and Microsoft has made things confusing for "normal people" in their version control scheme. To make a long story short, here's what you need to do before installing the ASCOM Platform on WIndows XP:Ensure you have Windows XP Service Pack 3 installed. See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322389 Install ONLY the .NET Framework 3.5 SP1. This includes everything you need for the ASCOM Platform. See http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=22 Run WIndows Update and make sure you are up to date Now install the ASCOM Platform. You should not apply any compatibility settings, neither before nor after installation.For more details on installing the ASCOM Platform, please see Tim Long's blog post The Definitive Guide to Installing ASCOM Platform 6.0 Service Pack 1."Well, nothing much in astrophotography is straightforward...Hope that helpsLouise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knobby Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Hi BrianDid you buy it second hand? The qhy cameras normally come with usb lead, and cd with software. Are you going to use it as a guide cam? I assume as you have phd and ascom, you'll be guiding with it.The drivers are on the qhyccd page: http://qhyccd.com/en/top/download/ under qhy5 (not to be confused with qhy5v, qhy5t or qhy5l-ii !!)There are 2 drivers of usual interest - 1) the native driver and 2) the ascom driver (qhy5ascom-v40.zip). The native one appears to require installation followed by download and installation of a separate update. It also looks like it might be a 64bit driver - just judging by it's name. Strange. Anyway, it's maybe better to just stick with the ascom driver if you're only using it as a guide cam.Both drivers are zip files. Just click on the associated links and select 'open' in your browser.The ascom one, at least, should run under XP ok (with the ascom platform installed first - plus you also need Microsoft .NET Framework as a pre-requisite.Oh, I got this from the ascom page - note the .net framework instructions: "Installing the ASCOM Platform on Windows XPMany of us use Windows XP in the observatory because of its simplicity and stability. The ASCOM Platform depends on Microsoft technology that is included in Windows 7 but was not included in Windows XP. This has caused confusion because the ASCOM Platform installer asks for Microsoft .NET Framework x.x, and Microsoft has made things confusing for "normal people" in their version control scheme. To make a long story short, here's what you need to do before installing the ASCOM Platform on WIndows XP:Ensure you have Windows XP Service Pack 3 installed. See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322389Install ONLY the .NET Framework 3.5 SP1. This includes everything you need for the ASCOM Platform. See http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=22Run WIndows Update and make sure you are up to dateNow install the ASCOM Platform. You should not apply any compatibility settings, neither before nor after installation.For more details on installing the ASCOM Platform, please see Tim Long's blog post The Definitive Guide to Installing ASCOM Platform 6.0 Service Pack 1."Well, nothing much in astrophotography is straightforward...Hope that helpsLouiseWhat a great reply !This is what makes this forum so fantastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldblade1983 Posted September 27, 2014 Author Share Posted September 27, 2014 I already have network 4 installed do you think that is why is not working. The 6.1 ascom platform seemed to require it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldblade1983 Posted September 27, 2014 Author Share Posted September 27, 2014 And if it shouldn't be installed is the easiest way just to format the laptop and reinstall xx from scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thalestris24 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 I already have network 4 installed do you think that is why is not working. The 6.1 ascom platform seemed to require itHiyaFWIW I have .NET Framework v4 and Ascom runs fine (with Win 7). You needed to have the Ascom platform installed before installing the qhy5 ascom driver, I think. Which driver(s) have you downloaded/installed?If you have EZPlanetary I think that should run with qhy5 native driver independent of ascom so you could use that to confirm the camera is working. EZPlanetary is free to download from qhyccd.Louise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_h Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 You will need the driver from the QHY download site (as above) AND the update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldblade1983 Posted October 4, 2014 Author Share Posted October 4, 2014 I've installed the drivers and the updateFInally getting somewhere - turns out the original problem was the 5 metre usb lead i was using. I switched to my printer cable (1.5 metre) and hey presto it installed the drivers.Now I am still having difficulty.If I use it with the QG Video software through my telescope during the day pointed at terristrial object the screen will go from white to black as a gradient depending on how much light gonig through - so something is working. But sHould I not be able to see a B&W image through the telescope during the day?If I use it with PHD plugged into my telescope with the cover on (i.e. no light getting to sensor) I get loads and loads of horizontal lines on the screen - I thought it would be a black screen? It's sorta like an old analogue tv without signal.Bear in mind I am a complete novice at guiding and so I might be doing something really stupid here.Is there something I am missing or is it likely the drivers aren't right?CheersBrian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldblade1983 Posted October 4, 2014 Author Share Posted October 4, 2014 PS if it makes a difference i'm using ascom 6.0 with xp and .net 3.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msh1 Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 qg video is not that good .with phd there is a slider in the middle of the screen just move it to the right the lines should disappear and also press take darks and follow the instructions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldblade1983 Posted October 4, 2014 Author Share Posted October 4, 2014 Lines don't disappear. .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldblade1983 Posted October 4, 2014 Author Share Posted October 4, 2014 Maybe I just need to try it at night through scope. I thought I should be able to see a normal picture during daylight if using the video software or is that not right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoffe Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 My QHY5 camera makes lot of lines too, have you taken any darks with the camera? (with no light that can hits the sensor). I could make the lines disappear, a good suggestion is also to install the ASCOM driver for the QHY5 camera if you haven't done that already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldblade1983 Posted October 4, 2014 Author Share Posted October 4, 2014 I tried taking them indoors with cover on but didn't see to make much of a difference. Yes I'm using ascom driver - not sure how else I could use it as the other drivers don't appear on phd2 list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoffe Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 I do not remember and I am not sure but it could also works as an WDM device, some video cams are detected like WDM-devices or Video-DS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoffe Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Try to take the dark frames in PHD when just before when you are going to start to guide. When the guide camera has cooled down as the rest of your scope before you start to imaging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoffe Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Btw, if the black lines continues to apper on the screen. Try a different usb-cable, a not to long with a high frequency filter, like this cable. Try also to change the USB-ports on your computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldblade1983 Posted October 11, 2014 Author Share Posted October 11, 2014 All up and running thanks everyone. Did a 4 minute exposure which came back white - too much pollution. One minute exposure has no star trails. Woop. Need to get out to some dark skies now! With whisky! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoffe Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Good to hear! But 4 minutes exposure is not much, with my sensitive Nikon D600 mounted on a 8" f/4 newtonian I can easily take 7 minutes (and even longer then that) exposures at ISO1600 without filling the pixels with light pollution. Maybe you need a CLS filter or something like that? Narrowband filter with a monocrome CCD or similar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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