crazyjedi Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 I don't think so AB but for some reason they don't appeal to me. I'm not bothered about the extra afov, I would rather have narrower but sharp right across the field. Also the focal lengths aren't quite as suitable for me.I know it's irrelevant for viewing, but they sound like they are built to a cost, and that it shows in certain areas. I like my eps solid and chunky ;-)StuThey just don't look as classy as the bgo's. Apparently they're not as weighty or solid feeling as the bgo's either and that does sort of matter to me. Solidity and a nice weighty feel inspire confidence in the quality in my little mind.Also bgo's are black and green and so will look at home in Alan's collection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyjedi Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 So has the gloss come off the BCOs then.....a few weeks ago everyone was lauding them as brighter than a BGO and at least as sharp ?The lack of gloss is the problem with bco's. I like a bit of class glass me.Nice to see you A-Baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 BCO's are excellent orthos but can't match the build and finish of the BGO's. Optically I reckon BCO 18mm is just a tad better than the 18m BGO (slightly better light transmission I thought). At the 6mm focal length the BGO just out performed the BCO on light scatter control but was as good if not a little better than a 6mm Ethos within the limits of 40-45 degrees, so not bad !The 50 degree FoV of the BCO's is not fully sharp so they are still effectively 40-ish degree orthos. Very good eyepieces for under £50 though. I have a feeling I've read somewhere that the Abbe Ortho design can only be fully sharp across a relatively narrow FoV so maybe thats a characteristic of the optical design ?Sorry if this repeats some of what I've posted before on these but it seemed relevant I tend to agree that the BGO's have a build quality that is worth hanging onto. I don't believe you should have to pay over the odds for it though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel-K Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 i would keep them when i had a couple i loved them on the globs best views i have seen was trough my BGO's shame i let them go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyjedi Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 BCO's are excellent orthos but can't match the build and finish of the BGO's. Optically I reckon BCO 18mm is just a tad better than the 18m BGO (slightly better light transmission I thought). At the 6mm focal length the BGO just out performed the BCO on light scatter control but was as good if not a little better than a 6mm Ethos within the limits of 40-45 degrees, so not bad !The 50 degree FoV of the BCO's is not fully sharp so they are still effectively 40-ish degree orthos. Very good eyepieces for under £50 though. I have a feeling I've read somewhere that the Abbe Ortho design can only be fully sharp across a relatively narrow FoV so maybe thats a characteristic of the optical design ?Sorry if this repeats some of what I've posted before on these but it seemed relevant I tend to agree that the BGO's have a build quality that is worth hanging onto. I don't believe you should have to pay over the odds for it though Indeed! It was a very good review John. I never like to pay over the odds for anything (although sometimes there's little choice) and that is why I was so astounded with the performance of the BGO's in the first place.The second hand market value of BGO's is not a big suprise to me as they were very good EP's set at a very reasonable price and now they've gone, the demand will set it's own market price. Mine are priceless to me and so will be staying with me......on a pedastal ......on a shrine.....In a temple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan potts Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 I managed to get a 9mm from Astro B&S without costing me both arms and a leg. I would love a 12.5mm but may well have to settle for a Hutech when FLO gets them, they look nicely made too. I wonder why Televue don't do Ortho'sAlan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargazer_00 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Dont they only make what they invent? I got that impression but I'm realtively new to this still being only my 2nd year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Dont they only make what they invent? I got that impression but I'm realtively new to this still being only my 2nd year...Thats my understanding too. Al Nagler did slightly modify the plossl design to get some early sales before the first Nagler was launched but since then they seem to have stayed with home grown designs, although I'm sure those are based at least partly on something else somewhere along the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargazer_00 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Heres hoping they make the first 68 degree ortho then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faulksy Posted March 18, 2013 Author Share Posted March 18, 2013 thanks for the help guys going to keep them now. were can i get a 18mm from ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargazer_00 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 AB&S I guess, with a little patience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faulksy Posted March 18, 2013 Author Share Posted March 18, 2013 AB&S I guess, with a little patience.always looking, thanks though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargazer_00 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 I'll keep an eye out for you too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 There's one on there at the moment isn't there?http://www.astrobuysell.com/uk/propview.php?view=66957Price is too high, I don't think they will sell for this now FLO are bringing in the Hutech's. Maybe try an offer?Stu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargazer_00 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Think he wanted an 18mm Stu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faulksy Posted March 18, 2013 Author Share Posted March 18, 2013 There's one on there at the moment isn't there?http://www.astrobuys....php?view=66957Price is too high, I don't think they will sell for this now FLO are bringing in the Hutech's. Maybe try an offer?Stuthanks but its a 7mm i want a 18mm worth ago though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faulksy Posted March 18, 2013 Author Share Posted March 18, 2013 Think he wanted an 18mm Stuthat would be great, thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Yes, thought that was an 18mm, wrong link. Will try again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 http://www.astrobuysell.com/uk/propview.php?view=66581This one..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel-K Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 just think i bought my 7MM BGO for £7 inc Postage and sold it for £40 wish i had kept it lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faulksy Posted March 18, 2013 Author Share Posted March 18, 2013 http://www.astrobuys....php?view=66581This one.....thanks for that,tempting but you no when your being ripped of its hard to swollow. its not dear for the quality but we no he paid £75ish, still tempting though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Agreed, as I said, they are not selling quickly at this price, noticeably since the FLO announcement so perhaps make an offer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faulksy Posted March 18, 2013 Author Share Posted March 18, 2013 Agreed, as I said, they are not selling quickly at this price, noticeably since the FLO announcement so perhaps make an offer?good point stuart will do that and let you no.cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faulksy Posted March 18, 2013 Author Share Posted March 18, 2013 sent her a message asked them why the high price and was it a mistake, if it wasnt a mistake were they open to offers, also said i was a member of sgl. lets see what they say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyjedi Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Glad I got my 18mm from FLO just before they vanished forever! £75 starting to look like a bargain now I Reckon the second hand price of BGO's will settle at around £100 as that seems to be the way the wind is blowing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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