Well first time had chance to take the dob out and check the collimation which when looking through the focuser is bob on, the views where very disappointing whether it was turbulence bad seeing I dont know.
I woke this morning in serious pain so came down looked out clear Orion facing me so even though the pain was really bad I have been waiting for clear skies.
made sure starsense was aligned by using Venus which was really bright noticed some flaring thought well Venus is bright and must remember got the spider to think about over to M42 I could see the shape of the nebula but the Trapezium stars were not as good as I thought they should be its like they were just out of focus could see the four only using the 25mm but they looked soft and slightly elongated.
Over to Jupiter and it was awful just a white blob with flaring no bands nothing could see two moons. Changed to a 15mm a bit better but not great so where do I go now obviously there is something wrong, going to check collimation after again but I cannot see it being out.
Any input very welcome.
Paul