Baader CoolCeramic Hershel diagonal P or V?

[25585]

Although the V is cheaper, would a P with more ND filtering be as good or better than the V for visual as less bright an image?

[Stu]

The visual version is perfectly adequate and safe for visual.

Although my grass always looks a funny colour after observing for a while, I enjoy the brightness and contrast and don’t feel the need for additional filters.

[Piero]

The V is completely sufficient for Visual. I have one, and have never wished anything else. 

[Tonynexevo925]

I have the P. Mostly used for visual but I felt the price difference was justified to future proof for AP (occasionally). 

[25585]

7 minutes ago, Tonynexevo925 said:

I have the P. Mostly used for visual but I felt the price difference was justified to future proof for AP (occasionally). 

Does it make the image too dark to see fine detail?

[Stu]

8 minutes ago, 25585 said:

Does it make the image too dark to see fine detail?

Richard, the standard product is perfectly safe so why not just enjoy the brightness and detail? Do you intend to do solar imaging?

[25585]

6 minutes ago, Stu said:

Richard, the standard product is perfectly safe so why not just enjoy the brightness and detail? Do you intend to do solar imaging?

I don't own one yet Stu!   Just researching 

[johninderby]

Worth checking out the 2” Lacerta Hershel Wedge. The equal of the Baader visually and superior for AP and a lot cheaper. I’ve owned both and really couldn’t tell any difference visually.

[Stu]

19 minutes ago, johninderby said:

Worth checking out the 2” Lacerta Hershel Wedge. The equal of the Baader visually and superior for AP and a lot cheaper. I’ve owned both and really couldn’t tell any difference visually.

What sort of powers did you use these up to John? I suspect the differences really become clear at very high power. Would be interested to view through a Lacerta though, good product by the sounds of it.

[Tonynexevo925]

53 minutes ago, 25585 said:

Does it make the image too dark to see fine detail?

You can remove the additional filters if required. It is a cost issue - the V is perfect for visual only and future proofing with the P is dependent on a) will you likely use for AP, b) are you happy to pay the extra?

Sensible to research as you are doing before making your decision. 

[johninderby]

I really couldn’t tell any difference at the highest magnification. I had the feeling the Lacerta might have been slightly better but as I wasn’t comparing them side by side could be wrong. It’s a close run thing though.

 

[johninderby]

The Baade4 is an excellent piece of kit but the Lacerta makes you realise that Baader really needs to cut the price to a more reasonable level.

[Stu]

5 minutes ago, johninderby said:

The Baade4 is an excellent piece of kit but the Lacerta makes you realise that Baader really needs to cut the price to a more reasonable level.

Don't forget that the Baader includes £120 of Continuum filter which evens things up somewhat.

[Highburymark]

And a clicklock eyepiece too?

 

[Tonynexevo925]

Though you may need the lower profile replacement instead of the click lock standard - depends on the scope. 

Here are the items needed:

The following items were included in this shipment: 

    1    "Baader #27 to fit DSLR to Herschel or Maxbright Diagonal" 
Price: £26.50

    1    "Baader ClickLock 1.25" Eyepiece Adapter with T-2 Thread" 
Price: £65.00

 

Order Number:    PO65160

Date:    24 Aug 2015

Delivery Method:    UK Royal Mail