toxic Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Messier 1 from Darlington HA - 17 x 1200 sec OIII - 9 x 1200 sec S2 - 12 x 1200 sec red - 10 x 600 sec Green - 10 x 600 sec Blue - 10 x 600 sec R.G.B -15 x 60 sec each channel total 18 hours 25 mins atik 383l mono Baader filters SW 200pds AZ-EQ6 thanks for looking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtreemchaos Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 cracking image Chris, loverly colour and detail, you deff got the processing bang on mate.thanks, charl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxic Posted April 2, 2016 Author Share Posted April 2, 2016 thank you very much charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry-Wilson Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Quite beautiful Chris & perfect framing. You've capture the short bulging gas on the lower left too - good stuff. I'd be tempted to adjust the black point, the background is a shade too light for my taste, maybe pull back on the stars a shade so they don't dominate M1. What do you think? Congratulations on a real cracking M1 ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollypenrice Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 I was going to make the same point as Barry. It is very rare for me to find a black point too high because I'm an arch advocate of not getting the background too dark. However, here I thnk it could come down a tad for more contrast. Every aspect of the colour is gorgeous. The background sky is neutral and flat, the star colour is bold and convincing and the nebula is a dream with the full spectrum getting a look in. Result! Olly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruud Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 It's a great image, Chris. I love the colours! Sweeter than cotton candy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxic Posted April 2, 2016 Author Share Posted April 2, 2016 wow thanks Barry i will have a look at that black point i have a new monitor so it may need to be calibrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxic Posted April 2, 2016 Author Share Posted April 2, 2016 WoW thanks Olly i am trying to keep it looking natural without too much processing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxic Posted April 2, 2016 Author Share Posted April 2, 2016 thanks a lot Ruud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laudropb Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Lovely image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxic Posted April 2, 2016 Author Share Posted April 2, 2016 hay Barry and Olly please let me know how this looks on your screens 15% more contrast and 20% less brightness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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toxic Posted April 2, 2016 Author Share Posted April 2, 2016 just darkened this image but on here it still looks brighter than in my system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyrasanth Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 I like the star colours in this image but have mixed feelings about the nebula. I would think either LRGB with HA would have been a better mix of spectrum. I have never seen the crab imaged & combined in every spectrum & the colours are quite loud- almost neon. However the technique is innovative so I take nothing away from that. The lack of L data has robbed the image of potential detail & the vibrant colours even at the small image scale have masked what detail could have been present. It does not work for me but that is only one opinion among many who do like the image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VSOP Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 As amazing as your image is, it is just as amazing that you can capture these from UK, light pollution central!! Very nice job and hard work, I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxic Posted April 3, 2016 Author Share Posted April 3, 2016 thank you Laudrop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxic Posted April 3, 2016 Author Share Posted April 3, 2016 thank you Pyrasanth for your input it is much appreciated oh i do have L data but i did not add it to the mix as all it seems to do is bloat the stars and gives way to much gradient. when i can i will only use NB data for luminance its the only way to combat the light pollution especially from the street light rite next to the obsy. now galaxies thats another can of worms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxic Posted April 3, 2016 Author Share Posted April 3, 2016 thank you very much VSOP yes it still amazes me getting objects so far away and through the orange soup as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyrasanth Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 9 hours ago, VSOP said: As amazing as your image is, it is just as amazing that you can capture these from UK, light pollution central!! Very nice job and hard work, I'm sure. The UK imaging gang are a resilient bunch. Techniques have to be developed to deal with the light pollution. Have you seen my images of M1 & a subsequent shot in the same thread of the light pollution which I dealt with?. I permanently have an IDAS LP2 filter in the imaging train & whilst this produces a cast on the L channel it is easy to deal with. Light pollution can be dealt with but you need a whole arsenal of tools including but not limited to Noels' & Annie's actions, GradientXterminator, PixInsight DBE & noise reduction as well as Photoshop & Startools. If you put all these packages into action you can deal with anything. The light pollution loses you the very faintest details but this can be somewhat mitigated by longer subs & more of them-light pollution decreases your signal to noise ratio. Narrow-band is another option but again you simulate the colour so that needs another level of careful processing & is not a substitute for dark skies. UK Imaging gang- keep doing what your doing because when you get to Atacama your results will be magnificent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollypenrice Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 I like the re-do. What I'd have done with the original, though, is just open it in Levels and move the black point slider to the right. If you have put a few background sky markers in using the Eyedropper Colour Sampler tool you can see in the information palette what the values are. Personally I like 23/23/23 in RGB for most images. This means individual monitors can be ignored. When you have an L layer (or any other layer) which, like your L layer, has good and bad effects I would think of how to exploit Photoshop levels in order to use it. So you could make an LRGB which might allow you to get more detail out of the Crab itself. Ignore the starfield. Just work on the Crab, then put the new one over the old one and erase the new starfield. (You have to be sure the background sky is at the same level in each.) Or, with what you have, you could extract a synthetic luminance and process that for detail then recombine it. Again, only use it where it's better. Erase it from the starfield, probably. I'm a colour nut so I like this image. Olly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry-Wilson Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Much better (on my iMac monitor) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxic Posted April 3, 2016 Author Share Posted April 3, 2016 thanks Olly i think i will try what you say'd when i better understand what it was you say'd lol i will get there eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxic Posted April 3, 2016 Author Share Posted April 3, 2016 thanks Barry MAC only when its raining Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astro mick Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Beautiful image Chris,and such dedication. Lovely. Mick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxic Posted April 3, 2016 Author Share Posted April 3, 2016 thank you very much Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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