4.7mm Ethos

[alan potts]

I am sure we are not all going to drop what we are doing and run out and buy one but Telescope House has reduced the price of this by 45 quid, can't be bad can it.

I still want one but why right on Christmas.

Alan.

[emadmoussa]

Still too rich for my blood...it's funny one eyepiece is almost the same price as my 10" Dob

[alan potts]

I understand you 100% I was putting eyepieces in a scope that cost less than the eyepiece last night and thought the exact same thing.

Alan

[emadmoussa]

like destroying a £10.000 structure with a £100.000 missile... Ah...the humanity!! :D

[emadmoussa]

Even worse - the ES 9mm 120-degree is as expensive as a 120mm apo... or 14-inch Dob. I'm actually wondering if this is the most expensive eyepiece there is.

[Pig]

like destroying a £10.000 structure with a £100.000 missile... Ah...the humanity!! :D

Slightly  Completely off topic _ sorry Alan.

How is your plan of destroying the Moon coming along I mad ?

[alan potts]

I think the Nikon 12.5mm 100 degree knocks on the same door, that's if you can find one in the UK. They are less in Japan, they like to fly business class.

Alan

[alan potts]

Slightly off topic Shaun?

Alan.

[emadmoussa]

Lol Shaun.

[estwing]

with the 13mm ethos and a 2" x2 powermate, I really cant bring myself to spend anymore on high power its low where I need to go

[Naemeth]

I would, but, err... remember what I said around two weeks ago?

[jetstream]

I have just purchased a 21mm Ethos and eventhough it is close to the 17mmE,it will compliment my scopes well......1.7deg TFOV in VX10 and 3.3 deg in the 90mm frac.Interestingly enough the 100' apparent field is not only why I'm buying these,it is the great optical performance.If the performance wasn't better than others by a noticeable amount,I would purchase something else.Of course this opens up the debate as to whether they are better,and if so by how much.To my eyes,on some objects there is a big difference-using dark skies that is.These things handle scatter well,offer great contrast and the detail they provide is excellent....got E&F in Trapezium with the 17E @ 70x

[John]

Hmmm - I've always been interested in the 4.7mm Ethos. I could replace a couple of high power EP's with it 

The Nikon Nav HW 17mm costs 1,720 Euros but that does include a converter that also gives you a 14mm. 

I've recently picked up an Ethos 21mm too Gerry  It was used though so the sale of the ES 20 / 100 covered a fair amount of it's cost.

Funnily enough I've never regretted the money I've spent on expensive eyepieces but I have sometimes rued less expensive ones.

[alan potts]

If I were in England I don't think I could help myself and I would have to pick up the phone. Then it would have to be KFC for Christmas dinner, and Boxing day for that matter.

I agree with the expensive eyepiece comment as well John, about 60% of mine I have bought second hand and there is something nice about knowing they are about as good as it gets and you will have them for a few years. There must be a cut-off point where most people will not step, like if TV introduce a 120 degree range, I don't think I would go down that road, but 110 E4.7mm is here with us and there is no smaller version.

I guess if I were to get one the 4.5mm Delos would need a new home and maybe the 5mm Pentax.

Alan

[Pig]

I think I will invest in one more eyepiece, prob a 24 or 27mm panoptic

[emadmoussa]

I think I will invest in one more eyepiece, prob a 24 or 27mm panoptic

considering you have an SCt perhaps getting the biggest FOV EP is advisable

[John]

considering you have an SCt perhaps getting the biggest FOV EP is advisable

I think Shaun already has a 31mm Nagler doesn't he ?. You can't get much wider than that !

Bit off topic from the 4.7mm Ethos though.

[Pig]

Well spotted young Imad   I don't really want to go under the 72 Deg of the Delos.

I will have to check what eye relief is available also

[estwing]

Hmmm - I've always been interested in the 4.7mm Ethos. I could replace a couple of high power EP's with it 

The Nikon Nav HW 17mm costs 1,720 Euros but that does include a converter that also gives you a 14mm. 

I've recently picked up an Ethos 21mm too Gerry  It was used though so the sale of the ES 20 / 100 covered a fair amount of it's cost.

Funnily enough I've never regretted the money I've spent on expensive eyepieces but I have sometimes rued less expensive ones.

sorry to go of topic...but I missed your 21E first light report John? has there been one?

[Pig]

I think Shaun already has a 31mm Nagler doesn't he ?. You can't get much wider than that !

Bit off topic from the 4.7mm Ethos though.

I have to climb out of the T31mm after using it   there is so much room inside.

[emadmoussa]

Well spotted young Imad   I don't really want to go under the 72 Deg of the Delos.

I will have to check what eye relief is available also

This will probably bring you back to Ethos ...or 100-deg Explore Scientific. My ES 14mm will be here in less than 3 weeks, will let you know for sure.

[alan potts]

It is a fair lump of glass but I do not believe it is as big as the Meade 30mm UWA, that is just totally OTT, but a dam good eyepiece.

Alan

[emadmoussa]

Did you guys see the Baader Scopos 35mm?! It is a big fat heavy beast...pretty disturbing to use on a giro mount :

[rl]

You don't see too many reviews on this one. It came out late in the series and by then I guess most folks were bored of reading about ethos excellence. I've got one....on axis you can get virtually the same result with a good plossl or ortho, but the edge correction is little short of miraculous at F/4. It's a keeper.

RL

[Pig]

4.7mm is a bit on the high power side for me, I am thinking of swapping my 3-6mm Nagler zoom for this very reason for a 6mm Delos, but I am sure at some point I will get a second scope that does not have as greater focal length, thus I might regret it.