Milamber Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 Horrible, nasty things, should never darken anybodies door, let alone sky - and besides, they are probably dangerous.Right, that's got that out of the way. Those of you that gave the 5mW green lasers then - I know they are susceptible to temperature, but can anyone say which bit is the affected bit... is it the laser module itself or the batteries?Arthur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albedo0.39 Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 I've wondered that myself - and even thought of how I might heat one up when at the scope ? Dew heater ? Resistor mounted somewhere on the laser ? I haven't got a Laser and as they are contraptions of the devil, could never be tempted, but for the casual - "look up there...can you see XYZ constellation ?" - I think they would be hard to beat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milamber Posted August 5, 2009 Author Share Posted August 5, 2009 they are contraptions of the devil, could never be tempted, ...Oh good grief yes - but on a purely hypothetical level you understand, I do need to know!Arthur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 I think it is the battery. Used one for outreach and it was playing up, changed batts for some in my pocket (warm) and all was ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milamber Posted August 5, 2009 Author Share Posted August 5, 2009 Excellent - that is so what I want to hear! I assume the same would go for red lasers, although I don't recall hearing that they suffer the same tbh?Arthur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steppenwolf Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 I've heard that the laser itself needs to warm up and I have to say that with a fresh set of batteries, that has been my experience, much brighter light after a while.Disclaimer:-Naturally this wasn't actually my own green laser it, err, belonged to my son (technically) as he paid for it with his own money. It is purely coincidence that the time he bought it was around the time of my birthday. I certainly would never consider using one myself and certainly not his 5mW version unless I was showing a newbie the night sky ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steppenwolf Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 I assume the same would go for red lasers,Apparently not, they seem to give full strength immediately.Disclaimer:-See my post above .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milamber Posted August 5, 2009 Author Share Posted August 5, 2009 I understand completely Steve - we martyrs to technology have to fight the good fight from the front lines sometimes... Arthur:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johninderby Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 Better quality green lasers have an output regulator that the keeps the laser at a constant brightness as the battery drains and also compensates for cold temperatures.Of course you're not likely to find this in the cheaper £25.00 to £30.00 5mw green lasers typically sold by astro shops.John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herakles Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 Try 2500ma batteries or higher, lower capacity one's drain easy , not that , err , I have one ...... err., um , it's my daughters'....yes ...thats what it is .... I did tell her they were bad and err , um ( rats ) confiscated it , purely in the name of Dads Toys . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikea Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 John is correct - the batteries will operate better when warm, but the laser chip will operate more efficiently, ie consume less current for a given output power the colder it is (just to be flippin' awkward!). There will also be a variation in the laser wavelength with temperature and drive current. Since this laser is used as a pump for a NdYAg crystal, variation in both power and wavelength will affect the efficiency of the pumping, which will (are you all still with me?) affect the final output power after it is frequency doubled up to 532nm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milamber Posted August 5, 2009 Author Share Posted August 5, 2009 OK. So. Remove the batteries and put them somewhere warm, but put the business end away from that somewhere warm, and all will be well with the world then... this is what you are saying, right ? Given my proposed scenario then, the laser module will be about 5 inches away from the power pack (not original batteries, need various voltages for other bits) which itself will be near some warm pinkies. The laser module(s)* will be fitted into a metal holder which also will help take any heat away. Added to that, the area that the laser sits in will have an optional 40mm fan circulating air, so all in all it looks like I should be OK?Arthur* Yes, there's that red 1mW one nearby as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikea Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 Yes Arthur, I'm sure that will be ok. I can't vouch for the design of those laser pens - I would imagine they have undergone minimal verification testing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milamber Posted August 5, 2009 Author Share Posted August 5, 2009 Excellent then, that's another problem solved/sorted/skirted/ran over the top of On to the next one!Arthur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikea Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 Maybe I should buy one and check it out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milamber Posted August 5, 2009 Author Share Posted August 5, 2009 Risky... do you have marigolds and tweezers? Should be OK with one if you have.Arthur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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