Has anyone seen the new ES 82 LER Eyepieces?

[Astro Dave]

On 01/02/2019 at 09:49, Louis D said:

Here's an explanation from Dave Bush on CN about the disappearance:

Well, this is interesting.   I just received an email from ES stating the following...

Recall

After receiving some negative feedback on the imaging performance of the new LER 82°,

we unfortunately noticed serious problems with the imaging performance.

Extensive random checks of the batch confirmed this suspicion.

For this reason we ask you to send all eyepieces of the 82° LER series back to us.

You will receive a credit note immediately.

Now, I've not had a chance to test my 8.5mm but I'm hoping to give it a shot tonight.  Depending on how it performs I may take advantage of their recall.

I wonder if they will be reimbursing all import duties in both directions as well as shipping charges.  Do they then apply to the respective governments for reimbursement of the duties collected?

Indeed, I did get all I paid refunded to me.  They asked me not to send the eyepiece back but rather to destroy it.

I see now that they are about to re-introduce these.  I'm hopeful.  

[vlaiv]

Bump up ...

Anyone has any news on these now?

I see them stocked again at TS - they were in stock at some point at the beginning and were pulled out of stock - in all likelihood related to first faulty batch. They are back again, but I don't seem to see any further mention online of this "line" (or rather addition to existing line of EPs?).

 

[Louis D]

1 hour ago, vlaiv said:

Bump up ...

Anyone has any news on these now?

I see them stocked again at TS - they were in stock at some point at the beginning and were pulled out of stock - in all likelihood related to first faulty batch. They are back again, but I don't seem to see any further mention online of this "line" (or rather addition to existing line of EPs?).

 

I just bought a set of Paradigms to compare to the HD-60s.  It's your turn to buy some equipment to check out for the rest of us. 😁

[vlaiv]

8 minutes ago, Louis D said:

I just bought a set of Paradigms to compare to the HD-60s.  It's your turn to buy some equipment to check out for the rest of us. 😁

Indeed! I'm in the market for ~ 5mm-7mm eyepieces for planetary and simply love my ES82 11mm, but at present time, given that ES82 LER would cost me total of about 185e (shipping, import duties, tax, you know, all the nice things government makes you pay ) - that is a bit steep for me.

Looking into ES62 5.5mm though - that one I might be able to afford at this time, so if I pull the trigger - will certainly post a review

 

[Louis D]

8 hours ago, vlaiv said:

Indeed! I'm in the market for ~ 5mm-7mm eyepieces for planetary and simply love my ES82 11mm, but at present time, given that ES82 LER would cost me total of about 185e (shipping, import duties, tax, you know, all the nice things government makes you pay ) - that is a bit steep for me.

The US, and Texas in particular, have been minimizing taxes and tariffs on imports to encourage trade.  Too bad it's not being reciprocated.  Off my soap box before John knocks me off of it. 🤐

[Ags]

Time to dust off this thread. Weirdly there are still no reports online of anyone using these. Very weirdly they only seem available from TS in Germany. I am thinking hard about getting the older ES 4.7 and 8.8, but would love to know how these compare... I'd probably go for the non-LER eyepieces, simply because they are bit lighter, their excellent quality is well known, and I am so happy with their 6.7 sister. Maybe that's how everyone feels.

[vlaiv]

3 minutes ago, Ags said:

Very weirdly they only seem available from TS in Germany.

And always seem to be out of stock with time to delivery being 1+ months.

[Ags]

Makes sense - the eyepieces don't exist - they are probably just ghosts in the TS machine.

[Don Pensack]

They exist, but for a variety of reasons I won't go into, are not preferred over the older ones.

I do find it strange they did a redesign to lengthen the eye relief, yet didn't make them glasses compatible.

[Ags]

12 hours ago, Don Pensack said:

...but for a variety of reasons I won't go into...

Oh please do! 

So I should not buy them, but you can't say why? It's even more mysterious now 🤐

Edited July 7, 2020 by Ags

[Louis D]

And then there's the equally mysterious Antares Speers-Waler Series 4 eyepieces which are also fairly recent, similar in specs and price to the ES-82 LERs, and also have a dearth of reports/reviews of them.