i feel like kicking myself right up the hutty butty

[stevie1980]

On 3/11/2016 at 15:15, Trade007 said:

So do you want a picture of Jupiter or video ??

If you just want a good photo I'd use your 1200 with a low Iso that will pic out more detail then use higher iso to pick moons up then use software to stack images then your get the detail on Jupiter aswell as the moons .I got some OK pics of Jupiter last night 

 

If you want video your gonna need to be able to use software to lose the glare pick detail up if that's not good your need specialist ccd camera but I think if you take a load of pics doff iso and exposure use software your get decent pics I've managed to pick detail up like the bands just need right software to get best image I even got pics of Saturn with its rings lol really proud that one 

yes i want mainly pics of jupiter... its really the moon i want to film, but i do that with my MOD webcam . you will have to post a few of your pics up.. id love to see them .. i have registax at the moment,is that the best one to use or is there other downloadables to use to stack?

[stevie1980]

23 hours ago, happy-kat said:

If it can see Jupiter as a bright Bob then I would imagine you need to adjust focus and/or gain settings. Sharpcap is great for using with webcams.

it was my webcams that was seeing them as a bright blob and my mobile phone. but when i had the 1200d in focus and magnified it was so clear. but when i took the pic the magnify dissapeared and left me with a tiny pic that would not let me magnify it.. i know what i did wrong now and ive corrected it, now just waiting for the clouds to  go and then im going to have another shot at jup..

[stevie1980]

[stevie1980]

[stevie1980]

13 minutes ago, stevie1980 said:

hi everyone who has helped me with my new camera. i hope im ok to post these two pictures here.. i have taken a few snapshots of the moon and in these two shots i can see an anomaly.in this pic it can clearly be seen. and can also be seen in the first pic. but more to the left. any answers as to what it could be would be great... black knight/ a bird/ or dare i say it a ufo lol. ive learnt how to use the camera now thanks to everyones help and i want to thank you all ,you are all fantastic people and i will be sticking to this fantastic site. i finally got a clearer picture of jupiter tonight aswell but it wasnt the best night and i know i can do better. 

[stevie1980]

sorry my bad.. i just looked back at a video  that i shot of the moon and the black anomaly is there also and it moves when i move, maybe some dirt on my lens. and hears me thinking id captured something good grrr 

[brantuk]

At least you're getting there Stevie - good to see you're making progress.

[stevie1980]

26 minutes ago, brantuk said:

At least you're getting there Stevie - good to see you're making progress.

thanks my friend. im loving it so far.at least i know that everything is working fine now. i cant wait to stack my pics of jupiter to see how it looks

[beka]

On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 11:50, stevie1980 said:

yes thanks for that i will give that a whirl tonight if the sky is clear enough. i just want what everyone else wants, just one clear good shot of jupiter and i wont stop untill ive got that pic or vid. i love this hobby its the best feeling ive ever had, well apart from being a daddy of course lol. thanks again

Hi stevie1980, it's like JemC said. You can get good shots of Jupiter with the Canon. The live view zoom is just for focusing, and cropping the image will of course not give you any new detail. A lot depends on your telescope. You may need a higher power Barlow or you may need to use other methods to increase the image scale on the camera sensor. If you can post details of your telescope and mount you can get more specific advice from members. 

 

Sorry did not realise there were three pages of posts :-)

[stevie1980]

2 hours ago, beka said:

Hi stevie1980, it's like JemC said. You can get good shots of Jupiter with the Canon. The live view zoom is just for focusing, and cropping the image will of course not give you any new detail. A lot depends on your telescope. You may need a higher power Barlow or you may need to use other methods to increase the image scale on the camera sensor. If you can post details of your telescope and mount you can get more specific advice from members. 

 

Sorry did not realise there were three pages of posts :-)

thanks beka it was quite hard seeing jupiter last night.i had a two minute window to have a quick glace and snap a few pics. not the best quality but its the best ive had so far. yes i have a skywatcher skyliner 150p dobsonian .. and now registax is hard to use for me, having never done anything like this before lol.ill put a pick up of the scope in a mo,i think i snapped a pic last night of it

[beka]

Great that you are making progress. Your telescope has a focal length of 1200mm meaning it will give you a plate scale of 0.17 arcsecs to the micrometer. Your canon has a pixel size of 4.3 micrometers therefore 1 pixel on your sensor captures about 0.73 arcsecs, which also happens to be near the theoretical resolving power of your telescope. For reference Jupiter is about 50 arcsecs wide when it is at its closest to Earth which was on March 8th this year I think. Because you will never get the theoretical resolving power of your telescope because of optical imperfections and the atmosphere, in principle you should be able to do the imaging without a Barlow. It would be good to have the opinion of someone who has tried a similar setup to see if all this theory really holds up. My own experience is with a Celestron NextImage which has larger pixels than your camera and a CPC 1100 telescope  so I needed to use a Barlow to get a larger image on the sensor. 

[todd8137]

so how would this work if you used the region of interest on the cameras software ?

pat

[todd8137]

15 hours ago, stevie1980 said:

sorry my bad.. i just looked back at a video  that i shot of the moon and the black anomaly is there also and it moves when i move, maybe some dirt on my lens. and hears me thinking id captured something good grrr 

 I thought it was going to say it was a Clingon bird of prey ,I had the same thing with a dusty Barlow 

pat

[todd8137]

14 minutes ago, beka said:

Great that you are making progress. Your telescope has a focal length of 1200mm meaning it will give you a plate scale of 0.17 arcsecs to the micrometer. Your canon has a pixel size of 4.3 micrometers therefore 1 pixel on your sensor captures about 0.73 arcsecs, which also happens to be near the theoretical resolving power of your telescope. For reference Jupiter is about 50 arcsecs wide when it is at its closest to Earth which was on March 8th this year I think. Because you will never get the theoretical resolving power of your telescope because of optical imperfections and the atmosphere, in principle you should be able to do the imaging without a Barlow. It would be good to have the opinion of someone who has tried a similar setup to see if all this theory really holds up. My own experience is with a Celestron NextImage which has larger pixels than your camera and a CPC 1100 telescope  so I needed to use a Barlow to get a larger image on the sensor. 

Does that camera have a region of interest function with in the software ? so you not use in all the chip ?

[beka]

19 minutes ago, todd8137 said:

so how would this work if you used the region of interest on the cameras software ?

pat

I imagine when you are focusing in live view, you can zoom in to get the best focus with jupiter is in the region of interest. I am not sure if I answered your question Pat. Incidentally I looked around on the Internet for DSLR images of Jupiter and it seems that the best images are taken with a Barlow,  some even with stacked Barlows!

[beka]

18 minutes ago, todd8137 said:

Does that camera have a region of interest function with in the software ? so you not use in all the chip ?

No it does not... The region of interest feature in DSLR cameras is mostly to aid focusing. It has no effect on the final image to my knowledge.

[stevie1980]

1 hour ago, beka said:

Great that you are making progress. Your telescope has a focal length of 1200mm meaning it will give you a plate scale of 0.17 arcsecs to the micrometer. Your canon has a pixel size of 4.3 micrometers therefore 1 pixel on your sensor captures about 0.73 arcsecs, which also happens to be near the theoretical resolving power of your telescope. For reference Jupiter is about 50 arcsecs wide when it is at its closest to Earth which was on March 8th this year I think. Because you will never get the theoretical resolving power of your telescope because of optical imperfections and the atmosphere, in principle you should be able to do the imaging without a Barlow. It would be good to have the opinion of someone who has tried a similar setup to see if all this theory really holds up. My own experience is with a Celestron NextImage which has larger pixels than your camera and a CPC 1100 telescope  so I needed to use a Barlow to get a larger image on the sensor. 

ill try that,thanks . i want a x4 barlow + t adapter all in one. i cant find any online that has the t adapter thread on the barlow x4... only on the x2 barlow 

[stevie1980]

50 minutes ago, todd8137 said:

 I thought it was going to say it was a Clingon bird of prey ,I had the same thing with a dusty Barlow 

pat

yes it was quite annoying to say the least and i really thought id got an image of a UFO lol. it makes me wonder now how easy it is to be mistaken  ,and there are people saying they spotted ufo's flying close to the moon .. it could be as easy as a speck of dust