Are celestron and revelation 15x70 the same instrument?

[jnb]

Are celestron and revelation 15x70 the same instrument?

Are these just rebranded and made in the same factory? and if so is there anything to choose between them?

[Reeny]

I am sure they have different rubber grips and cases. So likely to be made in different factories.

Although in theory, they could have the same innards.

[jnb]

OK, same question. If they're different is there any reason to choose one over the other?

[themos]

They could both be examples of this one

http://www.united-optics.com/products/binoculars/Giant_Binoculars/BA1_Series/BA1_Series.html

[Naemeth]

I suspect they are very similar. Steve (BinocularSky) would know a lot more, perhaps you should contact him .

HTH

[John]

I've owned both brands 15x70's and they seemed to perform identically to me and, with the exception of the branding / body moulding, seemed to be optically the same. 

[BinocularSky]

I suspect they are very similar. Steve (BinocularSky) would know a lot more, perhaps you should contact him .

HTH

Not much help, I'm afraid. Certainly same factory (United Optics, Kunming) and both are the BA1, but I've never had the Rev into bits .  The basic "geometry" will be identical, but there are differences across the BA1 range in selection of glass for objectives,  prism material, coatings, eyepiece type and possibly other things. Also, the Celestron (at least some of them) have the right eyepiece dioptre arrangement cemented together, whereas the Strathspey (another example of the BA1) uses grub-screws.

[Naemeth]

Not much help, I'm afraid. Certainly same factory (United Optics, Kunming) and both are the BA1, but I've never had the Rev into bits .  The basic "geometry" will be identical, but there are differences across the BA1 range in selection of glass for objectives,  prism material, coatings, eyepiece type and possibly other things. Also, the Celestron (at least some of them) have the right eyepiece dioptre arrangement cemented together, whereas the Strathspey (another example of the BA1) uses grub-screws.

Perhaps you should dismantle the revelation binoculars then .

[ollypenrice]

The only thing to worry about here is not which you buy but from whom you buy them. They are pretty variable and you need to be sure you won't be messed about if you get a misaligned or mis-collimated pair. Think FLO...

Olly

[Reeny]

OK, same question. If they're different is there any reason to choose one over the other?

Only £49.99 for the Revelations at the moment.

All the Revelation products have had a massive price drop earlier in the week.

That would be enough to swing it for me.

They were £60 last Monday.

[BinocularSky]

Perhaps you should dismantle the revelation binoculars then .

You donating one to the cause, then?

[ollypenrice]

They are ridicuously good value and better than they have any business to be at the price!

Olly

[Naemeth]

You donating one to the cause, then?

I don't have any to donate .

[Peter Drew]

We were donated a very used Revelation 15X70 recently, the performance exceeded my expectations enormously.    

[brantuk]

My experience is the same as John's above - except for the cosmetics they are remarkably identical in performance. A couple of years ago my mate brought his Rev 15x70's to our dark site to compare with my Celestron 15x70's and he too thought there was nothing between them. Hth