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Sorry you dont speak for "All" and with respect to optics the DPAC testing has sure taken this "bias" issue out of the equation, unless you dont believe in the science of it.

Lol, I report it as I see it and dont care what others think. All this talk about bias is just a distraction from acknowlegement regarding differences in optical quality. I just laugh when I report about how good our H130 is and there is no mention of bias then- and it is a good, diffraction limited telescope. Its hard to believe that some appear so fragile that an issue like optical quality could upset them.IMHO.

Is that in New York? if so its over a thousand miles. Id like to but... Im to busy observing and snowmobiling.

Thank you- that evening had a great sequence of events. The moon had just set, the sky was clear and the sky darkness (-the aurora) is about 21.6 right now, adding vg contrast. It was a stunning sight and the images at ISO 2500 or less looked the same visually as the images but really dynamic.

If things work out we are going for a Florida vacation next winter and hope to attend the winter star party. I also hope to look through TECs, Taks, Agema and A-P. Should be a great comparison under Florida seeing.

Yes! Thats it! and its the reason I thought it was the new one, couldnt be me and lack of knowledge thats for sure 🙄😂

Lol I didnt know this 😄 I'm not into phones and thought the 12 was the new one

Im really happy with my I Phone 11 performance on the aurora the other night. Up to ISO 3200 the phone has pretty low noise and after that it falls apart. I heard the new I Phone 12 has an even better camera- is this true? Heres the noise comparison:

False colour can also happen at times with certain eyepieces when looking through them at extreme angles.IMHO.

I was really really excited because of the extra 5mm of aperture over my TSA120- it is after all an extra 5mm of Takahashi aperture! and this could be a game changer visually.

Oh man!! I was ready to buy one! Got me lol I really want another Tak to go with the TAk tattoo I'm getting! Yes, this was mean.😐

Whats goin on Mike?!!

I wonder what kind of bias this introduces !

Rumour around the campfire is the Chinese optics are well figured, but possibly rushed a bit in the polishing process, affecting smoothness potentially. Opticians will slowly take the optic to a point where improvements either stop or go backwards. If it inadvertently goes far enough backwards they have to start all over. I'm not so sure they ^^ do that- or just release it if it meets their minimum standard whatever that is. IMHO.

Hi, my name is Gerry and I'm an... 😁 Just having fun is the way I look at it and its been a process to get good views and good views we are getting now! I have obs 5 out of 6 night now and the VX10 and TSA120 are cooling, ready for the moon. The Leica is better suited for the dob so in it goes and I'll just move it back and forth to compare scopes. When comparing I really dont like to use more than one eyepiece, and these zooms tick all the boxes.

Im sorry you cant find one, they are stunning, right up there with the HR/XO and barlow superbly. I can keep my eye out here for you as there are some smallish stores in Canada and you never know what they might have squirelled away. It is sharper than the Leica

@Littleguy80 In order to get the eye illumiation we need at the mag we need a 180mm f8 TEC is required. On advice @Captain Scarlet I ran it by the wife from the investment perspective and had all my numbers and stats laid out- a great performance if I say so myself. After all that she said: Absolutely Not 😔

Btw, you would love the Nikon 17 HW/14 EIC... Leave the Doc barlowed, use the 14mm 100 for galaxies then throw the Doc in for a better look.

Now I have to put all my toys back 😬 😂

The Docter barlows very well as you know and I leave Baader #2408151 on it permanently too, just screw on the barlow and rings. I think you use the same adapter.

Perfect- we could always add another 15mm ring to the set up for more barlow effect, these 2 EPs love the barlow. Your going to need more than 250x in tour Tak... Will be using mine on the moon in a few hours. Very easy to catch the seeing with these.

I can do like you and have more up top but I prefer to have more in the diag for reduced height if possible. I also have a 2" filter thread to T2 adapter so I can barlow any 2" eyepiece. Heres the 20mm Lunt with it.

I use APM's 2" adapter for the Leica and Baaders Diascope adapter for the Zeiss.Whats your overall length for max mag? Can you reach focus like that?