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This is all great news MarsG76 and I can't thank you enough for this work. I'm sure though you are enjoying it all, not to mention the new gear he he. Realy look forwards to seeing the results of stacking.
Interesting your mention of cables and binning. It had come to mind the comparable file sizes between the two cameras. Right now I can control dslr imaging from indoors using a 20m active USB 2.0 cable although the dslr is powered from a mains supply to dummy battery. I'll need to consider an ASiair Pro set up for the ASI2600MM.
Good luck, thanks and clear, dark skies.
Cheers,
Steve
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Thanks so much for posting this experiment, very helpful to see how the final result varies with overall exposure time. Bortle 8 too. Have you by the way seen the IKI Observatory data for the Iris Nebula on SGL, few of us could aspire to the times pent imaging and in far better dark conditions?
Cheers,
Steve
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Thank you so much for doing this comparison, it's now a question of saving up he he.
Best regards,
Steve
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I'd be happy seeing a best effort with a DSLR v the astro-camera and how they simply look as a test result. 🤗
Good luck and clear skies.
Cheers,
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On 05/02/2021 at 12:13, Carbon Brush said:
Notts started a scheme a few years ago. Then the county hall door was repainted a different colour following an election and the idea abandoned.
Well not just abandoned. Those lights that had been turned off were turned back on!😬🙄
In a wee while you will get chance to vote in the county council elections but I doubt any change will happen as regards street lighting. Such a shame the dimmed lights etc got put backon at night.
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Thanks very much for hosting this event. I have watched the presentation on You Tube and it has rekindled my enthusiasm for astro-photography following the very poor season we have passed through. I have used StarTools for a few years but lack of recent opportunity to get to grips with v 1.7 has meant I was floundering against the changes (improvements). Look forwards to the next installment processing some poorer data.
Thanks once again.
Steve
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Sure I read it somewhere the location is scheduled to become a new housing estate for 1200 new homes and have several all weather football training pitches built. 🤑
Cheers,
Steve
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Thanks for doing this comparison MarsG76 I am really interested in the practical improvements when compared to the theoretical advantages of the monochrome camera. I've never been quite sure of the QE of the Canon 700D at Ha wavelength either before or after modding except it improves the results dramatically compared to my unmodded Canon 600D which is all but useless for imaging DSO's under the light polluted conditions here. I still think the quantum efficiency at Ha wavelength for the ASI2600MM is low (compare the ASI294MM at around 76% at that wavelength and the older ASI183MM is around 78%), but in this hobby we get sensors reused for our purposes. The read noise of the ASI2600MM will also be a big improvement over that from a DSLR allowing shorter sub exposures.
May I ask what type of night sky you are able to image under?
Good luck.
Cheers,
Steve -
Hi Mars G76, thanks for starting this thread. It will be fascinating to see your future comparisons of images between the two set up’s. The difference between theory and practice-lovely.
I have been viewing the ASI2600MM as a potential future replacement for my modified Canon 700D for wide field nebula work.
On 26/02/2021 at 02:25, MarsG76 said:the camera being mono and has a QE of 91%...
The peak 91% QE isn't perhaps where you would wish it on the monochrome sensor, the graph below is from the FLO site for the ASI2600MM-Pro USB 3.0
At the Ha wavelength the QE drops to the mid-upper 50's, ok the OIII and Hb are much higher but the SII is even lower than for Ha.
You will also benefit from the lack of a Bayer array with the mono-sensor allowing more useful light to be captured by the sensor than your existing camera.
Good luck with the new acquisition. Look forward to your comparisons.
Cheers,
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Thanks Space Oddities for this welcome news. 👍
Cheers,
Steve- 1
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Well I'm making a personal stand. No more astro-purchases for a year then see where everything still resides. We are all going to have to repay the enormous costs arising from the virus so saving some hard earnt notes in the bank will come in handy. Difficult times.
Cheers,
Steve
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8 hours ago, smashing said:
At some point, when I'm not scared to do it outside in the dark I'll try and take some comparison shots with the two.
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Hi thanks for posting. I will be very interested to see your final result using the filter with the modified 600D in the light polluted environment that is Nottingham 'Queen of the Midlands'.
Quite understand your wish to try out the filter and we have had a terribly long wait for any clear sky since the beginning of November 2020, pity it coincides with a waxing and full Moon but there you go. M42's brightness will try to break through some of the light pollution.
Interested on a side note-how you are faring with the IDAS (LPS) D2 filter under your conditions?
Cheers,
Steve -
Here is the video from the Astro Imaging Channel with the appearance of Thomas Branwell mention in my last post. hope you find it generally informative.
Cheers,
Steve
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A very lovely image full of detail, colour and dust lanes. The various nebulosities have created a 3D effect in the detail. Well done.
Cheers,
Steve
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More than happy to oblige. Now it's up to the weather!
Cheers,
Stede
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Great stuff, keep recording. I've been keeping a manual record of nights allowing me to get outside and either observe or image for a number of years which I posted in anothanother SGL thread (copy below).
The problem is one man's observing session can be different to the next and imaging planetary taking less time than for DSO work. So far January was rubbish, clear nights with the waxing Moon up. Also location will affect records. Recently I've been keeping an eye on a Weather and Radar App on my tablet which so far has been very precise in allowing self forecasting for cloud, far superior to Cloudy Nights which sometimes says 100% cloud when there's not a cloud in the sky.
Good luck with your endeavour and great to compare data.
Cheers,
Steve
Month
2012-2013
2013-2014
2014-2015
2015-2016
2016-2017
2017-2018
2018-2019
2019-2020
2020-2021
June
1
3
0
5
2
3
10
0
4
July
3
4
2
2
2
1
7
5
8
August
4
9
9
7
6
13
11
13
5
Sept
5
8
9
11
6
8
12
13
11
Oct
7
8
6
10
4
7
7
8
7
Nov
4
7
8
10
3
10
9
9
9
Dec
6
6
10
8
3
6
14
4
10
Jan
6
4
9
5
4
11
15
6
6
Feb
4
4
5
6
4
5
15
7
Mar
2
2
5
5
4
3
5
8
April
0
2
7
4
5
6
5
8
May
0
3
3
3
3
9
4
7
Totals
42
60
73
76
46
82
114
88
Sessions/month
3.5
5
6.1
6.3
3.8
6.8
9.5
7.3
And imaging evenings-
Month
Number of Telescope/DSLR and Lens/DSLR Imaging Sessions
2015-16
2016-17
2017-18
2018-19
2019-20
2020-21
June
-
2
1
1
0
0
July
-
1
1
3
0
1
August
-
6
7
8
5
2
Sept
-
3
6
4
8
9
Oct
-
2
2
5
2
2
Nov
-
1
2
4
0
3
Dec
4
3
4
5
1
5
Jan
3
1
4
6
4
3
Feb
3
0
1
3
4
Mar
4
4
1
1
3
April
4
5
2
1
4
May
5
2
3
3
1
Total
23
30
34
44
32
25
Sessions
In Month
23/5=4.6pm
30/12=2.5
pm
34/12=2.83
pm
44/12=3.7 pm
32/12=2.7 pm
This all relates to Nottingham of course and living elsewhere may involve
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From what I've gleaned the satellites have a harder time picking up the blue peak from led lighting and which might explain why my location shows such a drop over the years. Still worthwhile have recourse to the site.
Also some of the peak outliers may be down to snow cover at the right times of the year.
Cheers,
Steve -
Just make sure your guiding software or device is compatible with the guiding camera you are to use.
Cheers,
Steve
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10 hours ago, RobertI said:
A very useful site, fun to fiddle with too.
Yes, I hope you enjoy using it. I was quite surprised at the trend for around here showing a decrease in radiance picked up by satellites. It will be useful for keeping a watch on radiance as we are having a number of housing developments locally.
Cheers,
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I thought I'd share this very interesting site with other SGL members-
https://lighttrends.lightpollutionmap.info/#zoom=9&lon=0.02131&lat=52.58884
It enables users to create a trend graph showing radiance levels in a specified area across 2013-2020. I've found that choosing the map grid, monchrome setting and adjusting the opacity of the Lights layer from the pull down menu on the right jand side allows you to see the area underneath more easily. By clicking on the fourth icon on the left side you can create the points for the area you want to see.
I've been inputting my SQM-L data onto the https://www.lightpollutionmap.info/#zoom=7.00&lat=52.8604&lon=-0.5894&layers=0BTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF site but never knew about this light trends application.
Have fun!
Cheers,
Steve- 6
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Hi, some miscellaneous PLL items to make more widely known to owners of the Eagle Core.
Status update. The Eagle Core updates currently remains at v2.10.
The Astro Imaging Chanel on YouTube will be having Thomas Branwell the North American Director of Operations for PrimaLuce Labs live on the 15th February 2021. Interesting to see any coverage on the Eagle Core, and developments or on accessories and the recent Eagle4 product range of control devices.
I've also come across this podcast on Thomas' journey into amateur astronomy and his move from Apple to PLL. Interesting background.
https://anchor.fm/spacejunk/episodes/Primaluces-Tom-Bramwell-The-Astronomer-Next-Door-enpp8t
Hope everyone has been able to use their Eagle Core devices? Any images or user feedback for tbe tbread would be gratefully received.
Cheers,
Steve
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I would save the £300 towards a ASI294MM-Pro. 😁
Good luck however spending your cash.
Cheers,
Steve -
Hi, and welcome to SGL. I have kept written records of nights observing and imaging which you might find of interest on the matter raised. The quick answer is not enough especially for imaging purposes. I've set out below in two tables a summary of the observing and imaging sessions from 2012 to the present day, there is obvious variability in the figures from year to year.
First the total number of evenings I have been able to get outside and either observe or image. These include the full range of complete nights to snatched periods between clouds.
Month
2012-2013
2013-2014
2014-2015
2015-2016
2016-2017
2017-2018
2018-2019
2019-2020
2020-2021
June
1
3
0
5
2
3
10
0
4
July
3
4
2
2
2
1
7
5
8
August
4
9
9
7
6
13
11
13
5
Sept
5
8
9
11
6
8
12
13
11
Oct
7
8
6
10
4
7
7
8
7
Nov
4
7
8
10
3
10
9
9
9
Dec
6
6
10
8
3
6
14
4
10
Jan
6
4
9
5
4
11
15
6
6
Feb
4
4
5
6
4
5
15
7
Mar
2
2
5
5
4
3
5
8
April
0
2
7
4
5
6
5
8
May
0
3
3
3
3
9
4
7
Totals
42
60
73
76
46
82
114
88
Sessions/month
3.5
5
6.1
6.3
3.8
6.8
9.5
7.3
And imaging evenings-
Month
Number of Telescope/DSLR and Lens/DSLR Imaging Sessions
2015-16
2016-17
2017-18
2018-19
2019-20
2020-21
June
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2
1
1
0
0
July
-
1
1
3
0
1
August
-
6
7
8
5
2
Sept
-
3
6
4
8
9
Oct
-
2
2
5
2
2
Nov
-
1
2
4
0
3
Dec
4
3
4
5
1
5
Jan
3
1
4
6
4
3
Feb
3
0
1
3
4
Mar
4
4
1
1
3
April
4
5
2
1
4
May
5
2
3
3
1
Total
23
30
34
44
32
25
Sessions
In Month
23/5=4.6pm
30/12=2.5
pm
34/12=2.83
pm
44/12=3.7 pm
32/12=2.7 pm
This all relates to Nottingham of course and living elsewhere may involve having a different weather pattern. also some nights may be lost to illness etc, but a fair reflection of opportunity to spend time outside with the hobby.
Cheers and clear skies.
Steve
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Cheers on that MarsG76, all good to know.
Steve