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the mirror grind begins


crashtestdummy

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aperture fever hits us all at sometime.it has now hit me 3 times.8" was big enough for 6 months.12" was big enough for 6 months and now 16" was big enough for 6 months.where next?there's no commercially available scopes bigger than 16" in the uk and to buy one from the usa or a custom uk builder would have cost £7000-10000 for the size I was after so a plan was hatched to build something.

myself and damian(master) attended a mirror making seminar with john Nichol who took away some of the myths of mirror making and made it seem much less of a dark art.we came away from the seminar with a real hunger to make one ourselves.originally I had planned to make a 16" to fit in my current scope but when I got the prices and found out it was only about £100 more expensive to get a 22" over a 16" I couldn't resist.

im sure a few of you will think im totally mental to just dive into a project this big and I would be inclined to agree with you as the only grinding ive done is to hog out a 12" blank to f5 so im still very much a novice but im prepared to take it steady and take my time and ask for help when needed.

about 2 weeks ago I took delivery of a 22" low expansion blank :) :) :)

actually I lie,i bought two but one is for my friend damian.we are both building a 22" scope so will be able to help each other on the way.

a 70kg pallet applies(2x22" mirrors)

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a 22" low expansion blank!!(22kg!!!!!)

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compared to a 12" blank!!

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damian admiring one of the tables he made for our builds!!!

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set up in the greenhouse out of the way

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so I started with the blank just over a week ago and have just been taking it steady.i did make mistakes during the bevelling stage by using the least abrasive side so it took me about 6 hours to bevel both sides and I snapped on stone through stupidity(I tried banging dust off it) and the second ended up like this

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safety first

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yesterday I started grinding the back of the mirror flat but its not uniform and has a raised section across the centre which ive highlighted in this photo

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currently grinding this out with short chordal strokes and will then use w strokes to get it back uniform after I have got the centre back towards the same level.im using up some old 60 grit I had left over from a 12" trial grind then be moving onto 80 grit which will take longer but theres no rush.

heres the back of the mirror after just over an hour of grinding.some of the edge waves are still visible but the centre is smooth so im definitely grinding the centre out more than the edge

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big thanks to john as he has supplied lots of information and help to get me to this point and im sure I will require much more.

more updates as and when :)

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Excellent write up and the beginnings are there.

I'll be adding my own thread very soon as I've now found a decent sub diameter tool.

Will hopefully start later today after some more on the mirror cell for another scope.See how things go ;-)

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I love to see people taking on this challenge, and you have embarked on a very big one here.

You certainly have the right attitude, which is a big plus in itself

It's difficult to gauge the thickness of the blank, about 40mm perhaps?

Also, does it have a pre generated curve, which would be a big help in reducing the amount of coarse grit grinding?

How fast are you making it? f3.5 - f4.5 perhaps,? I'm only guessing.

My largest mirror was a 14" f5, but I did the grinding with a full size blank. I only  used sub diameter laps during figuring stages.

I wish you well, you will have a mighty big photon collector, and I will follow your progress with extreme interest.

Best Wishes :icon_salut: :icon_salut:.

Ron.

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Hi,thanks for the kind comments and support.the blank is about 43mm thick and doesnt have a pregenerated curve as i wanted to do it all.im.planning it to be f3.6 as i dont want to have to use anything above a small step and im only 5'7" and on tiptoes at zenith on my 16" lightbridge!!

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wow !! I wish you luck ctd.  ive no idea whats involved in grinding a mirror, however I can imagine its painstaking work with a great deal of accuracy needed. ill be checking out the blog .

keep up the good work.

p.s - 22"  geez, monsterous...!!!

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Great blog thumb_up.gif

 

I can't imagine where you find the patience, on something that rough I'd have whipped out the orbital sander for the first stint  whistle.gif

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have to agree with all the comments above - will be following this blog with great interest. Looking forward to seeing the finished mirror and scope.

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Great blog thumb_up.gif

 

I can't imagine where you find the patience, on something that rough I'd have whipped out the orbital sander for the first stint  whistle.gif

A novel idea indeed, but even with the proper breathing mask and such I would not bother to try that, glass dust is deadly, a slow and agonizing way to go, even grinding by hand you never want your wet get to dry, butlike

everything else if you follow the proper procedures you will have no problems, slow and easy is always best with mirror making in my opinion, you learn more..just my 2 cents.

Rick

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cheers for the comments guys.should have a little update over the next few days but not had time due to buy a new car to replace my broken down one and then having more problems with the new one!!grrrrr

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Great project ! I am really looking forward to seeing how it all works out,   best wishes on getting this perfected.

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