toml42 Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 I've heard good things about the 20 and 25mm EPs in this range, but not so much on the 6mm, other than it doesn't have the best eye-relief in the world. Anyone have any experience with it? I'm wanting to use it for planetary work in the f5 8" skywatcher explorer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NGC 1502 Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 Hi, I think these are plossls, so yes, a 6mm will have tight eye relief & this bothers some people more than others. It certainly bothers me so I would prefer to barlow a12 or 12.5mm to get the same mag. but with usable eye relief.But if you don't already have a barlow, by the time you shell out for a good one ( cheap barlows are usually iffy ) you perhaps could simply get a 6mm with better E.R. Also, your F5 scope will be quite hard on eyepieces (fuzzy edges with less expensive ones) a good barlow can actually improve edge performance, so another factor to consider.Hope this helps ! Ed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RME1 Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 Hi, I haven't used one myself, but check out the review section on www.cloudynights.com . They've got a 6mm Lunar/planetary eyepiece comparison which includes the 6mm Sterling.Richard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toml42 Posted June 28, 2010 Author Share Posted June 28, 2010 Hi, I think these are plossls, so yes, a 6mm will have tight eye relief & this bothers some people more than others. It certainly bothers me so I would prefer to barlow a12 or 12.5mm to get the same mag. but with usable eye relief.But if you don't already have a barlow, by the time you shell out for a good one ( cheap barlows are usually iffy ) you perhaps could simply get a 6mm with better E.R. Also, your F5 scope will be quite hard on eyepieces (fuzzy edges with less expensive ones) a good barlow can actually improve edge performance, so another factor to consider.Hope this helps ! Ed.thanks for the advice. I notice you list a skywatcher 200 with a homemade mount, could you give me any tips? i'm about to do the same thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NGC 1502 Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Hi, Post #4, I was thinking about a post on SGL DIY section about my homemade mount, so will do that when I have time, which I never seem to have enough of !!But for starters, it's a fairly standard design, but I used 12mm plywood with stiffeners, for lightness with strength. For the azimuth bearing, I used 3 homemaderoller bearings with steel pins, 6mm dia, that sit in teflon cutouts. There is absolutelyno "stiction" a problem that I had with previous DIY mounts.For the altitude bearings, I made new 200mm dia plywood ones, with edging cut fromplastic pipe, & bolted directly to the original plastic side bearings, & did away with the "tensioner" handles. If yours is the F5 version, then I assume it will have tube rings & dovetail ? You could remove them & fit the side bearings to a short boxaround the tube, in conventional Dob fashion.I do realise this is rather off topic for an eyepiece thread !! But thought I would answer it here, where you would find it more easily.Best regards, make lots of sawdust !! Ed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
great_bear Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 I've heard good things about the 20 and 25mm EPs in this rangeYes - and Rob is selling one on SGL here <click> for a bargain £16- I would have thought that would have gone in a flash!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddyarrows Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 Hi, I have a 6mm sterling plossl but would strongly recommend SAs 6mm long eye relief at around £40 presentally. They have better colour correction, definition and good FOV and of course good eye relief, a bargin and IMHO is better than my TMB planetary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toml42 Posted June 29, 2010 Author Share Posted June 29, 2010 Hi, Post #4, I was thinking about a post on SGL DIY section about my homemade mount, so will do that when I have time, which I never seem to have enough of !!But for starters, it's a fairly standard design, but I used 12mm plywood with stiffeners, for lightness with strength. For the azimuth bearing, I used 3 homemaderoller bearings with steel pins, 6mm dia, that sit in teflon cutouts. There is absolutelyno "stiction" a problem that I had with previous DIY mounts.For the altitude bearings, I made new 200mm dia plywood ones, with edging cut fromplastic pipe, & bolted directly to the original plastic side bearings, & did away with the "tensioner" handles. If yours is the F5 version, then I assume it will have tube rings & dovetail ? You could remove them & fit the side bearings to a short boxaround the tube, in conventional Dob fashion.I do realise this is rather off topic for an eyepiece thread !! But thought I would answer it here, where you would find it more easily.Best regards, make lots of sawdust !! Ed.Thanks for the advice, it arrived today, rings/dovetail included, and i've already made plenty of sawdust! My dad is an engineer and has a few odds and ends lying around in the garage, so i may be able to fit additional gadgets... we shall see...Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toml42 Posted June 29, 2010 Author Share Posted June 29, 2010 Hi, I have a 6mm sterling plossl but would strongly recommend SAs 6mm long eye relief at around £40 presentally. They have better colour correction, definition and good FOV and of course good eye relief, a bargin and IMHO is better than my TMB planetary.thanks for the advice, what's the FOV on them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
great_bear Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 I think you'll find they're 55 degrees.That's if I'm correct in assuming that these are the same as:William Optics SPLs, andZhumell Z Series Planetaries- in other words, they're (in my opinion) Long Eye Relief Eyepieces from Long Perng of Taiwan.Does any retailer sell them direct in the UK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toml42 Posted June 29, 2010 Author Share Posted June 29, 2010 I think you'll find they're 55 degrees.That's if I'm correct in assuming that these are the same as:William Optics SPLs, andZhumell Z Series Planetaries- in other words, they're (in my opinion) Long Eye Relief Eyepieces from Long Perng of Taiwan.Does any retailer sell them direct in the UK?I saw them on the SmartAstronomy ebay shop, which i think is international. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
great_bear Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 Surely our friends in HMRC will clobber you with "import duty" if they see a commercial package from overseas heading your way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 Hi, These are US imports from Smart Astronomy. The performance is equal to a TV plossl (trust me I'm not playing this up). They are great EP's. I'm only selling mine to cover costs on a 20mm 5000 swa EP.Great ep's.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
great_bear Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 Okay, I've just had a lovely and polite email from Mr. Steven Huang of the Long Perng optical manufacturing company of Taiwan, informing me that - in Europe - we can get their Planetary Eyepieces (aka (IMO) Zhummel Zs / SA Solar System ) from two German importers of astronomy products:Omegon Okulare < Teleskop-Zubehör - Serie Teleskop-Zubehör: LETeleskopokulare Astroprofessional79€ from either - take your preferred pick of styling! Currently, neither of the two UK importers of Long Perng products are importing the Long Eye Relief Planetaries.As I may have said before, I think these are effectively the same eyepiece as William Optics Planetaries (someone correct me if I'm wrong?), so if you want a 3mm, 6mm, or 12mm one, you may as well order a WO unit from Steve @ FLO, or any other WO dealer for a faster result - unless you prefer the native-style of the Long Perng rubber eyecup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
great_bear Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 I think these are effectively the same eyepiece as William Optics Planetaries (someone correct me if I'm wrong?), so if you want a 3mm, 6mm, or 12mm one, you may as well order a WO unit from Steve @ FLO I can now confirm that the William Optics SPL units from FLO are definitely the same as Zhummel Z-Series Planetary EPs / SA Solar System EPs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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