Mircea Posted Tuesday at 18:36 Share Posted Tuesday at 18:36 Only last night, Monday, July 22, the skies were again more or less acceptable for variable star observations. Actually I was just going out to cool off a bit after the heat of the day. And, because I'm a wimp, I didn't go out empty-handed but armed with my Saga 10x42mm. After a few glances, I decided not to miss the opportunity and observe variables. Said and done, I observed the following thirteen variables: bet Lyr, R Lyr, del Cep, miu Cep, gam Cas, eta Aql, R Sct, U Del, EU Del, XY Lyr, g Her, R CrB, khi Cyg. R CrB has been known ''for a long time''. It was discovered as a variable star in 1795 by Pigott, who also discovered eta Aql. In this cycle I see that R CrB has stopped growing. It would have the ''right'' to rise to a maximum of 5.7 mv but, for some time, it has been lurking around magnitude 6mv. R Lyr, was discovered later as a variable, in 1856 by John Baxendell. Also this is a difficult to observe variable star. Last night I estimated it at 4.1mv. It's quite possible that the star was fainter. This is what the consensus among observers seems to be. But this much I can say with certainty: I have seen R Lyr with the naked eye but barely, barely - with averted vision - the comparison star ''43''. The above brings me to this comment: Khi Cyg, which I estimated at 4.5mv, using as comparison stars Eta Cyg = ''39'' and Fi Cyg = ''47'', I failed to see it with the naked eye. Unlike R Lyr. I received a message from Ms. Elizabeth Waagen of the AAVSO, in which I was informed that I had misrecorded the observations for Herschel's ''Garnet Star''. I recorded the observations under the index ''Mu Cep''. But this is a different star, the ''MU CEP'' star. As are U Del and EU Del in Dolphin. The server registered all my observations for miu Cep to MU CEP. Ooops ! That's why, from now on, I have to use the index ''miu Cep'' or ''MIU CEP''. Which, starting with the recording of last night's observation, I did. I wrote for others to know, the correct index is miu Cep for that star. Clear sky, Mircea 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunator Posted Tuesday at 21:01 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:01 Hi Mircea Very nice report. cheers Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mircea Posted Wednesday at 08:42 Author Share Posted Wednesday at 08:42 Thank you Ian I am so sorry I started so late observing variable stars. I did not waisted my time at the telescope. I observed hundreds of Deep Sky objects, about one thousand double stars of which hundred are subarc. But I had enough instructions and maps to start observing bright variable stars long before owning a telescope. When I was young, up until age 40, I had very good eyesight. But I didn't know it. I was seeing Epsilon Lyrae as double with the naked eyes. There was no internet, so I thought it is the same with everybody. I say this not for bragging but on the contrary, to show how stupid I was. I could have do observations of bright variable stars only with naked eye : Beta Lyr, Eta Aql, Alpha Her, Betelgeus and more. But for irrational reasons I kept delaying. It is good, very good and interesting to have and to observe the heaven with telescopes. What I missed is it is at least so interesting to observe variable stars. Even if I use only a hand held binocular. To cut a long story short, I started observing variables at age 65 instead of age 25. Hence the title of the topic. Clear sky, Mircea 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mircea Posted yesterday at 09:05 Author Share Posted yesterday at 09:05 (edited) Last night, Thursday, July 25 I observed the variable stars R CrB, RR CrB, RX Boo, X Her, alf Her, bet Lyr and khi Cyg. The comparisons were made with 10x50mm binoculars. But at alf Her and khi Cyg I used also naked eye estimations. I estimated khi Cyg at 4.5mv by comparison with Eta Cyg = 39 and Phi Cyg = 47. It was very interesting to see the star khi Cyg with the naked eye. Between Albireo/ Beta Cyg and Eta Cyg only khi Cyg was visible with the naked eye. This formed with Eta Cyg and a star to the West a step right angled triangular asterism, with the right angle in Khi. Today, I found out from Stellarium that this star, from the West of khi, was 8 Cyg which is the comparison star 47 for R Lyrae. I however, with the naked eye, did not saw Phi Cyg of 4.7mv between Albireo and Eta Cyg. I didn't even insisted, khi Cyg is at a third from Eta Cyg to Beta Cyg, that's where I focused my attention. khi Cyg, 8 Cyg, R Lyr and star 44 I saw them with the naked eye. Observed this way, khi Cyg was slightly less bright than star 44. Also through binoculars, at first glance, there was a difference between Phi Cyg and khi Cyg, in favor of khi. The noted equation is: a 3 khi 1 b From which I derived the magnitude 4.5mv for the famous khi Cyg. With binoculars or the naked eye, khi appeared brighter than Phi Cyg = 47 but dimmer than star 44. I attach the sketch of the observation. It is somewhat hard to explain but this naked eye observation gave me great joy. Clear sky, Mircea Edited yesterday at 09:13 by Mircea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Spock Posted yesterday at 09:17 Share Posted yesterday at 09:17 Variables are an interest of mine. I was starting with photometry a year ago but cloud has put paid to that. I just don't get enough clear skies to produce a meaningful light curve. Back in the '80s and '90s I was doing estimates every three or four days. Now it would be three or four weeks. Tree growth has also restricted my field of view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyS Posted yesterday at 11:07 Share Posted yesterday at 11:07 1 hour ago, Mr Spock said: Variables are an interest of mine. I was starting with photometry a year ago but cloud has put paid to that. I just don't get enough clear skies to produce a meaningful light curve. If you submit your observations to a variable star organisation they will be combined with other observers’ , making a decent light curve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Spock Posted yesterday at 11:19 Share Posted yesterday at 11:19 10 minutes ago, JeremyS said: If you submit your observations to a variable star organisation they will be combined with other observers’ , making a decent light curve. Half the fun is constructing light curves myself. Something like V UMi can look pretty good quite quickly with enough clear skies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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