A theory on constellations

[Extralien]

Thanks all for the replies..

Think I'll just post them here and see what you all think rather than just go create a new post.. Keeps it simple.

Thanks @dweller25 for the good idea

 

Firstly, as far as I understand, the first image is of ancient Egyptian origin and represents a few constellations.

The Hippo/Lion looking creature over on the left is Orion. Then the bull, Taurus..

But what about the guy holding the spear?

Long story short, I have been researching this particular layout from another source and it lead me to actually see if I could find this spear in the night sky..

So the second image is a collage of photos I took using a Sony a7s mirrorless camera (extreme low light capabilities. Check it out if you get the chance)

Third image is same set but with spear highlighted.

Fourth image is the same set but in the negative so I can mark out the major stars that make this all up.

The fifth image is of an area I had shot as part of my "getting used to using my new camera" scenario and it shows the spear tip on its own.

This spear (weather permitting) is clearly visible once you know it's there.. I wonder how many of you are able to check this?

IF ... If I am right, well "mind = blown"...

A long lost constellation known to ancient Egyptians, and much, much earlier..

Did I mention how big this spear is? The shaft trails way across the sky so the best time to see it in its entirity is roughly around the time Taurus/Orion rise..

You cannot miss it..  

Thanks in advance for all thoughts, advice, replies etc.

 

 

 

 

[Franklin]

The Hippo is "Taweret" the Egyptian Goddess of birth and fertility and in the image appears to be making an offering of a bull to "Horus" the hawk headed God, presumably to gain protection and wellbeing for the child at her feet. I've read that the Egyptians saw "Taweret" in the Northern sky where we see Ursa Major. Orion, as we know it, is one of the most prominent constellations in the sky and it would have been the same for the ancient Egyptians, their name for Orion the Hunter was "Sah" and was associated with the God "Osiris".

The stars you have made an arrow out of are Capella, the stars of Perseus and the Pleiades.

[Extralien]

Thank you @Franklin for the confirmation there and the extra info on the stars used for the spear..

Since I did those "highlights" I'm not sure if the Pleiades are actually involved in the formation of the spear head as the star next in order gives the spear tip a bit more of a defined shape. The Pleiades kinda stretches that first line to the star at the tip, so some room for error there

 

[Franklin]

Of the 88 constellations we know today some are quite modern, especially in the Southern skies but the majority go back to ancient times and are of Arabic and Greek origin. However, looking at the extent of the ancient Egyptian pantheon it wouldn't be a surprise if these peoples had different names and recognized other patterns in the skies to mark their Gods in the heavens. I suppose if the great library at Alexandria had never been destroyed by fire we would know a lot more about it.

[Extralien]

As far as I'm aware, yes, they did have some different patterns.

[inedible_hulk]

Hi and welcome. You may find this paper of interest (presuming you haven’t already read it):

https://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu/pdf/1998JBAA..108...79R

[Extralien]

@inedible_hulk Thanks for the welcome and the paper.

I am aware of the currently understood history of the stars etc with its myths, legends and Gods attributed to them over the years but, if I'm right, this paper is now out of date and wrong in some parts.

Yeah, quite the statement to make so I'll show you why I said that and what brought me to find this forum.

On 21st December 2012 I sat down to watch a documentary on the Chauvet cave art in Southern France. What I saw hidden/embedded into the art appears to defy everything we think we know about our past.

Long story, and many visual examples, cut short, here we see a piece from the cave art and a piece from the tomb ceiling of Seti the 1st.

Points to note;

Hippo/Lion with its mouth open and tongue out.

The curvature of the crocodiles form was scratched into the surface of the cave wall.

A curved plinth stands before the Hippo.

A flat platform that a four legged animal appears above.

Both images are mirrored from the sky, as if they were drawn whilst looking down upon those constellations instead of looking up from Earth. Really odd!

The "flat platform" from the cave art is actually a spear.

The cave art is over 30,000 years old...

The chances of these two images being a coincidence are very low.

So that's what lead me to try to go find the spear in the night sky and it looks like I have 

[900SL]

Is there a box of frogs anywhere in these images?

[Earl]

This might interest you.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/002182860503600302