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Albir phil

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  1. 25 minutes ago, callisto said:

    Well it's been 4 days now with clouds and rain here, Northumberland coast... the weather forecast was supposed to be 19deg and blue skies, yeah whatever!

    How can the forecasting be so wrong...then again they do cover their backs with the words "changeable" and "hit and miss" :BangHead:

    From this day on I'm never looking at the weather forecast again, better off opening the window and sticking my finger outside!

    Sorry for the rant 🥴

    Yes best way to forecast the weather, what you see is what you get💨💦🌞

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  2. 3 minutes ago, vlaiv said:

    I understand, but it is not really the sales pitch here - it is very old convention on how to label different sensor sizes.

    If you visit that wiki page I linked earlier (here it is again: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_sensor_format), you will see that most sensor sizes are in fact labeled as a fraction of that strange one inch which is 16mm and not 25.4mm as you would expect.

    I do get your concern, and at one point I also myself wondered why they are labeled so strangely (although I never trusted that labeling and always checked diagonal in mm - probably because I'm used to metric and never think in inches).

    Fact that Sony replaced term 1" with Type 1 - is also rather telling. I guess that many people noticed this discrepancy and that "Type" nomenclature is introduced to remedy this somewhat.

    Yes all understood but most people don't know the history re sensor labeling it would be nice if things could be clear instead of using obscure interpretation in order to justify somewhat misleading information.I am not saying zwo is doing this to sell the 533,but things could be made more clear I am sure🙂

  3. 2 minutes ago, glafnazur said:

    The glass tube that surrounded a signal plate had a 1-inch diameter, although the photosensitive area of the tube was only about 0.63" in diameter – or around 16mm

    I failed to read this in Vlaiv's earlier reply, In TVs they only count the actual screen size, so yes it does seem strange. and misleading.

    Reason I brought this issue up is because I bought a zwo 533 because they sold it as a1inch sensor.when it came hello it's 16mm. No problem with the camera just the sales pitch 🤔

  4. 2 minutes ago, tooth_dr said:

    But it’s not, a 60” tv measures 60” diagonal.  These sensors measure 16mm diagonal instead of 25mm.  If I see this I assume the sensor is 1” diagonal. It’s misleading in this image that they advertise with

    image.png.52cccdffcaf7f4832411a0af41bd59e5.png

     

    Yes that's the point I to am trying to make and calling it Type 1 is no better

  5. 2 minutes ago, glafnazur said:

    It's like TVs, they are measured diagonally too. They might advertise a 60" tv but is only something like 52" wide and 29" high.

    Yes I get your point regarding tv but wouldn't it be nice to order a 60inch tv and get one not 60inch on the diagonal. It is really down to avertising sales

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  6. 18 minutes ago, vlaiv said:

    I don't know if it can be clearer than this:

    image.png.9b62387e717dae43c6d95a6ff1afdf41.png

    (taken from ZWO website page on ASI533MC Pro)

    You also have all other necessary information regarding light gathering potential of the sensor:

    image.png.c7d62f81be9dbe33fb52157585f86cc2.png

    Yes I get that my point is don't advertise as having a 1 inch sensor when it is clear by looking at it it is physically not the case. if I buy a 80mm aperture scope I get a scope which is 80mm,not less.

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  7. Thank for the replies. I note that zwo now says it's a type 1  and this should clear things up.I understand the history of the sensor but saying it's a type 1 still leaves the1 in the advertisements.Perhaps we should be informed of the actual aperture of the sensor,as it is advertised with telescopes,then we know what we are getting for our money 🤔

  8. 1 hour ago, vlaiv said:

    ZWO publishes correct data.

    I think that your confusion arises from the "1 inch" part - which is remnant of the old times and does not actually measure 1 inch in diagonal.

    https://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2022/07/28/dealing-with-the-confusing-and-misleading-1-inch-type-image-sensor

    This means that when you see something like 4/3 or 1/2" sensor size - you can't really calculate those in inches but rather see one inch to be about 16mm in this context.

    Sensor that is 1/2" will have about 8mm diagonal.

    image.png.2e83850e22de4802442479279c70acd4.png

    (see this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_sensor_format)

    So in reality it's roughly a half inch that actually collects the photons.

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