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Hello All,

I was told this is where to come to post my thoughts on what I

want and looking to do so I can get some useful feedback on if I'm

heading in the right direction.

First I will say, that the last few days have been pretty confusing to

say the least, as I have been checking into my options on a

telescope in the 12" to 16" range (DOB), and the options and info is

incredibly overwhelming.

With everything I'm wanting to accomplish my first thought was I

had it licked with the purchase of the Orion SkyQuest XX12g GoTo

setup. After doing more research and confusing myself more I have

steered away from that option and am looking at other ideas.

My latest thoughts are this...

Meade LightBridge 16" DOB outfitted with the JMI Train-n-Track

setup. I've also considered the Dob-Tracker III as a different option

to the JMI setup, along with a few other upgrades for the

LightBridge as well as an DSI III.

What I would like to accomplish?

First, I want to be able to see these fascinating Nebula's, Galaxies,

and other things of interest that just can't happen with a smaller

scope, unless I'm mistaken (and I may be).

Secondly, I would really like to get into being able to photograph

what I see from time to time as well. Hookup to my laptop is

something else I'd love to be able to do (which I believe goes hand-

n-hand with photographing).

I would like to keep my initial investment below $3000 if at all

possible.

Am I thinking in the right direction or am I all wet?

All advice and input would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Patrick

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Hi patrick you are correct that you need apparture to see nebulas and galaxys and a dob is the cheapest way to go for that, however imaging those things with a dob is pretty much impossible. To image deep space objects you need a gem mount that is capable of being guided.

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Dobsonian mounts are Alt/Az so you get field rotation which foul up astrophotography.

!6" dobs are heavy and give you a bad back. The weight also tends to mean they don't actually get used much,. They have to be very fast so reckon on recollimating quite a lot, you will need good eyepieces for what will have to be f/4, and owing to be mass of glass they take longer to cool down.

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Dollar sign says American so lets have a looksie and see whats what

this would be good for imaging and observing

Orion Telescopes: Orion Sirius 8 EQ-G Reflector Telescope with GoTo Controller

lets go bigger :)

Orion Telescopes: Orion Atlas 10 EQ-G Reflector Telescope with GoTo Controller

10 inch, good light grasp and again with a good mount for the imaging

i dont think you would go wrong with either of these and both are under budget leaving cash for extra's

both of these will tick the boxes, great visual and imaging B)

updates when you can :grin:

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Hi Patrick

A big Dob is not the right tool for AP. That's best done by small Apo's on GEM's

However a large Dob is the right tool for visual DS observing but there are some drawbacks:

They're big and heavy. make sure you have the room and the strength to handle one BEFORE you order.

Go and check out a couple of 12"-16" scopes at your local society.

If you can house it and use it without having to assemble/disassemble it every time you use it that would make it much easier to live with.

That said a 16" telescope Won't give you a bad back if lifted properly and I personally use mine a great deal more than my 10" grab n go.

IMO As they are visual scopes there is little point in all the electric add ons best to use the money to buy more aperture or better quality eyepieces to use with one.

Its hard to beat the view through a good wide field eyepiece in a big Dob.

Regards Steve

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Thanks for the reply folks, I appreciate it.

What do you think about the Meade LX90-SC 10" and/or 12" for my

uses? I've been reading up on them in the last few hours, and they

are presented as good for astrophotography.

What are your thoughts on these models, if any?

Thanks again,

Patrick

P.S. I am seeing pictures from people using the 8" version, and they

are looking pretty amazing indeed.

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well regarded telescopes but i see them as planetary, as i see things "a fast telescope can do any thing a slow one can, its harder to say the same in return"

the two telescopes i posted links to above would be, im my view, great all-rounder general use telescopes

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Looking at the Orion Atlas 10 EQ-G right now, looks promising for

sure. Thanks Nick.

Patrick

P.S. Just a little more info for all:

We live out in the country so not much "city" light or background

lightening to worry about.

I have a very large garage where I can store the telescope and

keep it assembled and safe.

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Hi Patrick

A big Dob is not the right tool for AP. That's best done by small Apo's on GEM's

However a large Dob is the right tool for visual DS observing but there are some drawbacks:

They're big and heavy. make sure you have the room and the strength to handle one BEFORE you order.

Its hard to beat the view through a good wide field eyepiece in a big Dob.

Regards Steve

To kind of agree, with your budget I would buy a 12" Dob (non go to) + some good eyepieces;

and still have change for a reasonable starter imaging setup.

A Dob is the way to go for observing, but not for imaging DSO.

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Sorry to keep going on here, but I'd also like to know more about

focal length. Do I understand correctly, the larger/bigger the focal

length, the deeper into space we can see or the more light it will

pickup?

Just looking at these, seen a youtube video on this, and the guy

was saying something to this effect if I understood him correctly.

I guess what I'm wondering here, is for like the Meade 16"

Lightbridge, the focal length is advertised as 1829mm, while say

the Celestron CGEM 1100 telescope is an advertised 2800mm.

Would not the Celestron see deeper space objects? What am I

missing here?

Thanks,

Patrick

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Sorry to keep going on here, but I'd also like to know more about

focal length. Do I understand correctly, the larger/bigger the focal

length, the deeper into space we can see or the more light it will

pickup?

Just looking at these, seen a youtube video on this, and the guy

was saying something to this effect if I understood him correctly.

I guess what I'm wondering here, is for like the Meade 16"

Lightbridge, the focal length is advertised as 1829mm, while say

the Celestron CGEM 1100 telescope is an advertised 2800mm.

Would not the Celestron see deeper space objects? What am I

missing here?

Thanks,

Patrick

no patrick how much you see is dependant on apparture ie the hole in the front. focal length affects manification and field of view. Essentially a scope works by how much light it collects the larger the apparture the more light it collect. the focal length decides the magnification the longer the focal length in relation to its apparture the greater the magnification it seems counter intuitive but its not magnification thats needed to see dso's its apparture to see a dim object you need more loght not more magnification

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OK, I think I got it. So a 16" will always out perform a 12" in that

respect, keeping all else equal. Then magnification can be handled

via eye pieces, correct?

OK, that helps a lot. Thanks!

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mags with the EPs = yep

focal ratio, low is fast (5), widefield

slow telescopes , high numbers (10,15) tight, great for planets and moon, not so great but can still be good on some DSOs

for me, well i go for wide field (f5), a decent barlow can increase my focal length for planets and moon.

"a fast scope can do anything a slow one can, the same cannot be said in return"

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Patrick.

As was pointed out to me think of a scope as a light catching bucket. The bigger the bucket the more light it catches.

If your going for a 16in Dob its a two man 'set up' so they are best left 'set up' if you catch my drift purely because of there size.

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