Truely new beginners seeks advise

[Zermelo]

The stock 10mm eyepiece isn't great, though the poor view may be due to a low elevation - Jupiter isn't as well placed as it was.

The Starguider range has an 8mm and 12mm, no 10mm.

There are some here:

https://www.teleskop-express.de/shop/product_info.php/info/p4931_TS-Optics-1-25--ED--eyepiece-12-mm---60--flat-field--long-eye-relief.html

though they look pricey compared with FLO?

In the U.S. look for Astrotech Paradigms.

[Taichou]

Thanks alot. Yes, they are much more expensive than from FLO, unfortunately.

As I understand following eyepieces are from the same manufacturer, just differently branded:

- BST Starguider 1.25 8mm (16mm eye relief)

- TS Optics 1.25 ED 8mm (16mm eye relief)

- Agena Starguider 1.25 Dual ED 8mm (16-20mm eye relief)

- Astro-Tech paradigm 1.25 Dual ED 8mm (13mm relief)

All these eyepieces look identical but there are differences in the eye relief? Does anyone know why?

[Zermelo]

I'd be surprised if there really were any difference in eye relief. The view on here has always been that they are just different badging of the same generic eyepieces (and I think there are others).

More likely is that some of the companies have been more accurate than others in their sales literature. It's quite common.

[Taichou]

Thanks Zermelo. I will try to get the Agena or Astrotech when I am in the US. 

Just for my ciriosity, are the Baader Hyperion EPs much better than the BST ones? I can see that they have a larger FOV. 

Which EP will work best with a MAK 127?

[Zermelo]

1 hour ago, Taichou said:

Thanks Zermelo. I will try to get the Agena or Astrotech when I am in the US. 

Just for my ciriosity, are the Baader Hyperion EPs much better than the BST ones? I can see that they have a larger FOV. 

Which EP will work best with a MAK 127?

I've never used Hyperions. There's a consensus that they're not at their best in fast scopes (below F/6), but they should work well in the Skymax. You'll get a wider field, and good build quality, coatings, etc., but they're over twice the price of the Starguiders, in the UK at least. I don't think you'll get better performance than the Starguiders at their price, and they would also perform well in a faster scope, if you decide to get one later on.

If you do want to spend more to get a wider field, I'd look at the OVL Nirvanas, which are good value in their class (and there is a 10mm). From within the EU, I believe these are identical, but others may know more.