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You'll need a clear Eastern horizon and catch it half an hour or so before the sun comes up. It's just below the head of pisces (directly beneath markab in the square of peg) at the moment and half way between neptune and uranus. It gets up to about 8 or 9 degrees before the sun starts to wipe it out. hth :)

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Well, I am working on my paper to go along with my chart I had to fill out Saturday night. Apparently Venus was one of the items but since I had to go home so early, I'm allowed to omit it from my paper. I must say that I rather enjoyed the camping trip over all.

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