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Thankyou Helen I think I have it right do you think I will see something throuh it now? as I havent set up the finderscope up or done the collimation I did buy a cheshire? type but im like a big kid with a new toy!lol and my children and wife keep asking when im going to use it!

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Give it a go!! unless the collimation is unbelivably out you'll see something. Without the finder you'll probably struggle to actually locate anything, but just sweeping the skies with your lowest power eyepiece (biggest number) is fun in its own right! Just remember to focus slowly... its very easy to go through the focus point if you're too quick... once you get a donut showing you need to move in the direction that makes the donut smaller, and keep going until you get point-like stars

Have fun

Helen

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