Dannomiss

Sorry for all the questions recently, Just so much to learn and appreciate all the help and advice so far. 

Now which Sky atlas would be best?

9 minutes ago, Adam Barnsley said:

New Finder,  but not Telrad. Can i use "ruler" with my Atlas?

I see you have the deep sky atlas... How does this compare with sky and telescope pocket sky atlas? 

14 minutes ago, noah4x4 said:

OK, it's not available in Hardback or Paperback....

But download Celestron's free 'SkyPortal' APP to your Apple or Android device.

You get an interactive sky atlas where you can look forward (or back) to any moment in time. Great for planning future observation targets.

For most principle objects you get a text description.

For some you get an audio description. 

It offers features like "tonight's best". 

Better than any collection of books. 

That's awesome.. Thank you. I like both apps and books. I love books 📚😊👌

On 03/07/2020 at 19:27, Philip R said:

Here's my 3p's worth... (0.01p per bullet point)...

• cleaner/clearer views on brighter objects, ie no chromatic abberation as with 'some' refractors
• cheaper to make and sell, rather than grinding two or more elements of matching glass for lenses of the same size
• lighter OTA

We are talking about reflectors here, just so I understand? 🤔

39 minutes ago, Timebandit said:

 

 

 

I started of in the hobby on a refractor. And given the choice of a good refractor v reflector at the same aperture then I would opt for a refractor every time. I just find on targets such as stars / doubles then a refractor image is just so sharp and clear of a pinpoint star visual image. But after I had been in the hobby for some time you realise that to start hunting for those faint fuzzy DSO objects then you really do need aperture (together with Dark Sky's). And the only way to get plenty of aperture that is cost effective and portable is through a reflector. You get so much more aperture per inch to the £  with a reflector. So refractor v reflector is not a debate in my head anymore , as have both now and they are both needed and used for my particular preference on targets that I feel that I get the best views to my eyes.

 

 

Love this. And how much would you budget for a refractor. I wouldn't have a clue 

2 hours ago, fozzybear said:

Wil Tirion sky atlas 2000.0 Deluxe

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sky-Atlas-2000-0-Deluxe-Tirion/dp/0933346336/ref=pd_sbs_14_8?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=0933346336&pd_rd_r=a34dc437-4d90-460a-b6fc-761cc5e61d79&pd_rd_w=GG07G&pd_rd_wg=DdVQU&pf_rd_p=2773aa8e-42c5-4dbe-bda8-5cdf226aa078&pf_rd_r=YY4A9VC7436H6SXKKBV5&psc=1&refRID=YY4A9VC7436H6SXKKBV5

If the moon is of interest download Patrick chevalley program "Virtual moon Atlas" https://ap-i.net/avl/en/start

What's the difference between the deluxe one above and this one... 

https://blackwells.co.uk/bookshop/product/9780521173636?gC=5a105e8b&gclid=Cj0KCQjw9IX4BRCcARIsAOD2OB0mLvYwsS1KRaORAaYlPuQcN9afhcWHeib1m49SkXhqVepkGnyMLygaAgRUEALw_wcB

6 minutes ago, gary756 said:

We've got the Philips stargazing book, but we actually prefer the colins version. Same sort of thing we just find the layout easier to use. 

You have this one? 

Hi all, so after recommendations on here, I bought Turn Left at orion book which is fantastic. I also bought philips 2020 stargazing (month by month), but I was wondering if anyone has other recommendations. As a beginner I like the the thought of Collins moon gazing plus does anyone have or read Astronomy years books? 

Thanks in advance 

8 hours ago, Timebandit said:

Also a great grab and go and very portable option is a pair of binoculars

I have some Olympus 10 x 50s and some of the best times have been laying back on sun lounger looking up at night with them

7 hours ago, Dannomiss said:

I have this one coming today. Smaller than ones above, but should fit the lenses nice and snug

 

The box is pretty small. I estimate only 5 lenses will fit into this box 

2 hours ago, merlin100 said:

Do you have a link to that at all, please?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01MQIAUNS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_2DgaFb056J18C

13 hours ago, Victor Boesen said:

Back to your original question. I was originally skeptic about the small refractor when I purchased it but I was surprised. I really think you should try one yourself to observe the difference between you current telescope and a refractor. It's not like the view is day and night different but you notice that the stars don't have diffraction spikes but airy disks instead and the star fields look a little cleaner. A refractor is often also more stable on planets because of the smaller aperture and therefore you are looking through less atmosphere. Some, including myself, find this very comfortable and relaxing compared to a more wobbly view through a dobsonian with larger aperture. With that said, the patient guy at a star party with a large dob will most likely always go to bed having seen more detail on planets than the ones with a small frac but that moment of crisp details perhaps only lasts a couple of seconds.

I would love one mainly for portability. My heritage 150p is very portable. But as I don't drive obviously its awkward. Not heavy just awkward. I'm away a lot for work and where I work there is plenty of dark sky... So a refractor for that reason is also tempting. Need to get more out of my Reflector before I also get a refractor, but the differenece has intrigued me

3 hours ago, Barry-W-Fenner said:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/233484293126

Great starter choices of the BST range. The 8mm is my most used and I really like the 15mm it gives a great image in my 200p at x80 mag.

Cheers 👍

I have this one coming today. Smaller than ones above, but should fit the lenses nice and snug

15 minutes ago, IB20 said:

😁 room for the 5mm too which is in the system. But yeah, it’s my fault for the clouds. 🙃

What size box is that? 👍

I am just starting my collection and only have the 8mm. 15mm comes next week 

5 minutes ago, wookie1965 said:

The biggest scope I've looked through is a 22" at M51 and what a site it was. I had a lovely 8" reflector which I should never of parted with it was very good at getting fainter objects.

I only ever used it at meets so 2/3  times a year good for deep sky.

I have two refractors a Tal 100rs and s Meade 127 5"  these you can get out even if the sky not that clever these punch through. Double stars, multiple stars and cluster's even from light polluted sky's is why I have them plus planets look like marbles and stars look pin sharp.

Stop it. The temptation is getting harder to resist 😂

31 minutes ago, Victor Boesen said:

Back to your original question. I was originally skeptic about the small refractor when I purchased it but I was surprised. I really think you should try one yourself to observe the difference between you current telescope and a refractor. It's not like the view is day and night different but you notice that the stars don't have diffraction spikes but airy disks instead and the star fields look a little cleaner. A refractor is often also more stable on planets because of the smaller aperture and therefore you are looking through less atmosphere. Some, including myself, find this very comfortable and relaxing compared to a more wobbly view through a dobsonian with larger aperture. With that said, the patient guy at a star party with a large dob will most likely always go to bed having seen more detail on planets than the ones with a small frac but that moment of crisp details perhaps only lasts a couple of seconds.

I would love one mainly for portability. My heritage 150p is very portable. But as I don't drive obviously its awkward. Not heavy just awkward. I'm away a lot for work and where I work there is plenty of dark sky... So a refractor for that reason is also tempting. Need to get more out of my Reflector before I also get a refractor, but the differenece has intrigued me

About the licking- it's off topic and that's a different forum 😂

28 minutes ago, CraigT82 said:

little ED 66 or 72mm frac

Very nice. I like that. 👌

I didn't realise until the other day that the heritage actually came off the dobsonian base 😂 doh

12 minutes ago, CraigT82 said:

little ED 66 or 72mm frac

Very nice. I like that. 👌

I didn't realise until the other day that the heritage actually came off the dobsonian base 😂 doh

This is so good. I was told this is a ncie place and what you guys have said and shared is so helpful 😁

So hypothetically speaking, if a newbie wanted a refractor as well, what would you recommend. Asking for a friend 😉

2 minutes ago, Timebandit said:

 

 

 

The old refractor v reflector debate again , these can get very interesting. I will get my popcorn😁🍿

 

 

I have never had the debate, for me it's all new 😁👍

Hi all, 

So as many of you know, I have a new Reflector skywalker heritage 150p which I love and is great. And I get the larger aperture rules because it let's let's in more light etc. And they are generally cheaper. But what are the big differences really of why people buy a Reflector over a refractor and vice verser. What are the real benefits of each. 

I ask because many I see have refractors and just wondering why 😊👍

5 minutes ago, merlin100 said:

Me neither.  A photo can't replicate the brilliance and the life seen through the eyepiece.

I have to keep telling myself to just put the phone down and just look and appreciate what I am seeing and enjoy that experience, without feeling the need to constantly try and get the next best photo

6 minutes ago, John said:

Nice shots !

I've only relatviely recently discovered that the mobile phone camera is capable of producing some pretty good lunar and solar images just held steadily to the eyepiece and leaving the phone firmware to do it's thing. I even managed to snap Venus and Mercury this way during the recent conjunction of those two planets.

I've found a zoom eyepiece and simple (cheap !) e.bay phone clamp works quite well. The zoom eyepiece can be adjusted quickly and the mobile cameras digital zoom helps fill the screen as well.

I'm not going to turn into an imager any time soon but it's simple, quick, cheap, does no need wires and power supplies and can add to the fun of lunar observing 

 

I don't think I will turn into an imager anytime soon either, mainly because of budget and money lol. I am just enjoying using my phone and learning about the sky 🙂

Just now, JeremyS said:

Nice pics @Dannomiss!

Thanks so much 🙂