Good to tell summer here in uk, constellations changed, got used to orion, pliedies, Perseus etc, going to have to learn another section, out last night laid on floor with binoe`s could not make any thing out, mind you rolling clouds did not help, i will have to study Patrick moors year book 2011. Hoping for a crack at Venus and moon this morning, and may be Saturn, but it was raining heavy here in York, been low cloud cover here this last week, mind you tonight looks promising clear blue sky's @6.15pm.