Is Seben still considered "scheisse"?

[jammin63]

I've seen that Seben sells a 8-24 zoom eyepiece on ebay for around $50, my telescope came with a 26mm, so the zoom, plus a 32 or 40mm for deep space and maybe a barlow, at least on paper, seems like a good beginning setup. But I've seen a few remarks that Seben is not held in high regard, but at the same time, it seems many here below the 8-24mm is made in one factory with different labels and maybe pricing, based on QA procedures. Any comments? There are so many choices for eyepieces, eyepiece sets, same focal lengths with different FOVs that I'm getting headaches studying it all and trying to decide what's the best for me!!! Thanks

[GordonCopestake]

I have used the Vixen 8-24 and found it a nice eyepiece, although the FOV let it down a bit.

Unless you have a NEED for a zoom, you are better off with a set of plossls from GSO/Celestron/Meade et al