The_PSY3NTIST Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Hi all<br />I have just got all the bits together to start guiding but would like some advice on the guide scope please. I have a 60mm f/11 celestron knocking about that I intend to give a try but wondered what is the slowest usable scope in other peoples opinions. I intend to get the st80 at some point but for now it will have to wait. Do you think it is achievable with the celestron I mentioned. Any advice welcomed<br /><br />Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steppenwolf Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Provided you can find a suitable guide star with an exposure of between 1 and, say, 5 seconds, you will be OK with any telescope. An ST80 has just the right balance of field of view/focal ratio/price which is why it is so popular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arushin Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Hi all<br />I have just got all the bits together to start guiding but would like some advice on the guide scope please. I have a 60mm f/11 celestron knocking about that I intend to give a try but wondered what is the slowest usable scope in other peoples opinions. I intend to get the st80 at some point but for now it will have to wait. Do you think it is achievable with the celestron I mentioned. Any advice welcomed<br /><br />ThanksHiI had a cheap 60mm refractor which I tried to use as a guidescope but found it a problem. I believe it was also F11.My solution was to take it apart to find that it had 2 lenses, one of which appeared to be a colour corrector.When I took this one out I was able to experiment with an eyepiece and a temporary tube (Kitchen Roll holder) to find the new focus point (allowing for play either way). I then cut the tube down to match and reassembled it. Hey presto....short tube refractor! I think it got the focal ratio to something like F4I am also looking to get the ST80 soon but my 'bodge job' works for now.RegardsTonyJust a thought if you are brave enough to give it a try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_PSY3NTIST Posted September 16, 2012 Author Share Posted September 16, 2012 Thanks tony. That sounds like a great idea! I'll have a go at that today its only a cheap nexstar 60 so nothing to lose. What makes you want to get the st80 if this works? Also what distance roughly did you focus to decide to tube length?Many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sailor Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 SW ST80 coupled with the SW 200 for me, little and large Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_PSY3NTIST Posted September 16, 2012 Author Share Posted September 16, 2012 Ok so I get a focal length of 300mm so f/5. Just need to find the hacksaw now and get chopping thanks for the input guys. Saved me a few pounds for now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_PSY3NTIST Posted September 16, 2012 Author Share Posted September 16, 2012 Except for you Steve. It was your book that caused all this ha. Great book mate, perfect introduction to the dark arts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_PSY3NTIST Posted September 16, 2012 Author Share Posted September 16, 2012 There she is. A nice light weight short tube thanks again everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arushin Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Thanks tony. That sounds like a great idea! I'll have a go at that today its only a cheap nexstar 60 so nothing to lose. What makes you want to get the st80 if this works? Also what distance roughly did you focus to decide to tube length?Many thanksHi,Looks like you have it sorted.I just measured where the point of 'Focus' was and then allowed for inward and outward travel of the focuser. I may just have got lucky.I only want the ST80 because it should give me more in the way of guide star options. I can generally find a guide star with the 'bodge job' but I have to mess about a fair bit with the guidescope rings to find one bright enough... I guess I'm just lazy.Regards Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollypenrice Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Excellent thread and a fine discovery! It the CA (which is presumably gigantic in a singlet) is a problem then maybe a cheap colour filter would reduce it. Red or green?Olly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_PSY3NTIST Posted September 17, 2012 Author Share Posted September 17, 2012 Hi,Looks like you have it sorted.I just measured where the point of 'Focus' was and then allowed for inward and outward travel of the focuser. I may just have got lucky.I only want the ST80 because it should give me more in the way of guide star options. I can generally find a guide star with the 'bodge job' but I have to mess about a fair bit with the guidescope rings to find one bright enough... I guess I'm just lazy.Regards TonyYes all sorted. I asked my fiancé to measure the distance between the lens and the eye piece as I held them up then measured from the end of the tube to half way down the extension of the focuser. Didn't have a kitchen roll spare could have ended in tears but she did a mighty fine job Good idea with the filter Olly. With it only being 60mm wouldn't that block out valuable light? Hope to get it all up and running this weekend and try to get a few hours on m42 at more than 60s which is all I could manage unguided last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollypenrice Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Yes all sorted. I asked my fiancé to measure the distance between the lens and the eye piece as I held them up then measured from the end of the tube to half way down the extension of the focuser. Didn't have a kitchen roll spare could have ended in tears but she did a mighty fine job Good idea with the filter Olly. With it only being 60mm wouldn't that block out valuable light? Hope to get it all up and running this weekend and try to get a few hours on m42 at more than 60s which is all I could manage unguided last year.It might, but on the other hand red light is less disturbed by the atmosphere and so you don't end up chasing the seeing. It's time for a bit of experimenting, as ever.Olly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_PSY3NTIST Posted September 18, 2012 Author Share Posted September 18, 2012 as always. Fleebay hunt is on for a cheap red filter as we speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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