Heads up.

[ollypenrice]

Two very nice looking pairs of Swaros in the SGL classifieds at the moment, in case you hadn't spotted them. I have no possible excuse but you might be luckier!!!

lly

[michael.h.f.wilkinson]

Don't tempt me!! I have sworn to go the Zeiss way if(!) I ever decide to upgrade the Vixen 10x56 I currently have (just because the Zeiss use different roof prisms allowing a touch better transmission). The 15x70s are safe for now, unless the Lunt 16x70 or the Vixen Arc 16x80 have significantly better eye relief.

[BinocularSky]

Oh heck! [desperately scrabbling around for an excuse]

 The 15x70s are safe for now, unless the Lunt 16x70 or the Vixen Arc 16x80 have significantly better eye relief.

The Lunt does. The details you want are:

Eye relief as measured from eye lens: Apollo - 18mm; Lunt - 20mm

Eye lens recess: Apollo - 8mm; Lunt - 3mm

Eye-cup depth (i.e. how much extra you get when you fold it down): Apollo - 6mm; Lunt - 10mm

[michael.h.f.wilkinson]

I could buy the missus a pair of 8x30s, as she doesn't like my bigger 10x50 and 1056 types. On the other hand, she is not into nature watching of any kind in a big way, so it would probably just sit there and not be used, so I would really have to use it from time to time myself

[BinocularSky]

I could buy the missus a pair of 8x30s,

Unfortunately, I recently bought mine a lovely 8x42, so I can't use that excuse.

[michael.h.f.wilkinson]

Unfortunately, I recently bought mine a lovely 8x42, so I can't use that excuse.

You might add some lead lining to the bins and convince her a lighter pair would be better

[BinocularSky]

(Also, did you see my edit re Lunt eye relief above?)

[michael.h.f.wilkinson]

(Also, did you see my edit re Lunt eye relief above?)

Interesting data. I might go for the Lunt at some time. I will possibly be in the US (Arizona) next year, and might snap one up while I am there. I will also check out the ER on the Vixen Arc. I used a 20x80 some years back, and it was quite comfortable, I remember. However, the 16x has different EPs so I will check those out

[michael.h.f.wilkinson]

Vixen state that the ER on the 16x80 is 17mm, and the images I have seen suggest a lens that is not recessed much (unlike the frankly HUGE recess in the BA-8 15x70s)