laser_jock99

Many of us have camped at the Fforest Fields campsite or stayed at other places in Mid Wales to enjoy the the dark skies there. But I would just like to draw everyones attention to the possible ending of this. Bute Energy Wales is proposing a large number of wind farms in Mid & South Wales which will all have Mega Wind Turbines. By this I mean they will not be the the standard 80m tall wind turbines we see everywhere all the time but huge 220m (740 feet) tall turbines (as high a 70 storey building). As direct result each turbine will need bright aircraft anti-collision lighting on all night. As you can imagine this will negatively impact the pristine dark skies for miles around.

Fforest Fields campsite will be 500m DUE NORTH of one of the proposed wind farms with 16 Mega Turbines on hills to the south- not good.

Bute Energy's Mega Wind Farms are sill in the planning stages- there is an opportunity to have your say about the 120m weather mast they are putting in first (also with bright anti collision lighting). If we can stop the test mast we might be able to prevent light pollution at this site (and others across Wales). If you object to Mid Wales dark skies being ruined you can have your say here:

https://pa.powys.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=makeComment&keyVal=SA8PIVMPLQA00

Details of Bute Energy's plans to put mega turbine windfarms across Wales here:

Our Portfolio - Bute

Such sad news. I only met Alyn once- at the aptly named Star Inn, Powys.

.....seems a bit whacky- 'celebrate' dark sky locations by filling them with lights!!!

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What will they think of next........

On 23/10/2021 at 20:35, Chris said:

They have just upgraded from their two security lights to 3 security lights. I thought it was the Full Moon glaring through the curtains!

There are Laws against this.......

I tried the Deep Field Challenge once- as you say, it's amazing what you can pick up with amatuer gear these days.

180 second single exposure with 12" F4 Newtonian & Lodestar mono guidescope camera

https://live.staticflickr.com/4319/36141877845_63d667f15b_h.jpg

On 15/12/2020 at 10:47, Stuart1971 said:

We live in a small rural village, and many houses are in complete darkness when the lights go off, and out crime rate was zero, before they did this, now it has risen dramatically and some of the offenders were caught a while back as we now have a good Neighborhood watch scheme in place, and also a good relationship with our local police who have been very good... they told us that the issue was the lack of lighting and this has come from them questioning the offenders...saying that it made things easier...

Modern CCTV cameras that many people have on there property, as I do, work very well with night vision, but it’s not good enough to pick out facial features and so on, so street light helps with this it make images much clearer having the extra light on the drive and in the street in general... also cars can be parked on streets without being noticed when in pitch black, whereas when lit up people see them and if not recognised or look dodgy, they can be reported, which is what has happened here, it’s nearly always small white vans...

So I disagree, sorry.... 👍😀

In Warwickshire the night time crime went down 30-40% with the switch off......

I don't know where you are based- but Mid Wales might be worth a look?

There's an astonomy biased glamping site near me:

https://www.wigwamholidays.com/hafren

Good job.

Fantastic image- I like that!

Bortle 2-3 I'd say.

10 hours ago, alacant said:

The only alternative I can find which may work out of the box is the priced-like-a-small-refractor cr ontc.

Please note that i am not an expert on this stuff and must credit @laser_jock99, our resident Newtonian modification expert, for the influence on the above.

Cheers and HTH but do tell us what you decide to do.

 

I wouldn't go as far as 'expert'!

I have certainly fettled these things to try and get the best performance.

There is a bit of fun/sense of acheivement to be had from modding scopes - but there is also a slight chance the main mirror is a complete lemon and you won't get anywhere with it.

At the end of the day though these are 'budget' scopes and I would set my expectations accordingly.

1 hour ago, jiberjaber said:

 

 

How much did they charge to knock that up ?

 

Free to me- one of our subsidary companies is an engineering shop. I cashed in a few favours!

On 03/06/2020 at 02:35, Adam J said:

The issue I always have with these is that you dont need to level a pier top to polar align and so you introduce a vibration source in making the leveling device using threaded rods.

Quite right. I'd avoid the 'leveling bolts' approach. So many times we see good solid piers sunk into x tonnes of concrete- only to have the entire scope balanced on some M12 studding!!!!!

Another issue to be aware of with wider brake discs is the possibilty of the scope clashing with mount. This could become apparent when pointing the scope close to vertical.

A better solution is to get a local machine shop to make a custom, drop in puck for your steel tube.

A drawing I made for the puck.

I remember Hale Bopp well. Best comet I've seen. Wouldn't mind another like it!!

My best shot- 300mm lens, Kodakchrome 400 film & homemade tracking mount.

On 20/05/2020 at 01:16, MarkAR said:

OMG, this thread is 9 years old !

....and still relevant! And my pier is still there!!!

Nice image and great town- love Cartegena!

Do the rain detectors detect snow? I left my gear going once and came back outside to a near blizzard!

31 minutes ago, Craney said:

My goodness..... you have some form of Mandelbrot Set on the left...!!!

Stack of five, three minute exposures- trees don't stack well!

....four years ago today (according to Facebook!).

Worth a look if you haven't seen it already.
 

Here's a picture of my 6" F4 scope on the outside pier. The 80mm refractor is the guide scope (or an alternative imager). Note though how I use a top & bottom dovetail bar for extra stability. You will also notice they are 2x longer than supplied dovetail bars- this is important to reduce tube flexure in the Newt's steel tube. If you can get Lossmandy type long dovetail bars- use those. Much stiffer than Skywatcher type.

The 6" F4 optical tube assembly is quite cheap- but I found it requires a bit more investment to get the best out of it.

Working at F4 isn't too trying- F2.9 is a different ball game. Only go down that avenue if you like being told 'it can't be done'!

I have bunch of F4 Newtonians and use the 0.73x Coma Corrector on all of them at times. So the 12" F2.9 scope is interesting.....M51 in just 140 seconds.

These fast Newts are 'interesting' scopes and capable of good results but probably not 'out of the box'. Be prepared to modify & fettle the scope to get the best results.

A good laser collimator is a must and these are not cheap. A good coma corrector is also required for best results.

Think about the following mods- stronger primary collimation springs, longer top & bottom dovetail bars.

Be prepared to re-check the focus and collimation of the scope as it cools during a session- at F4 small changes in teperature can have big effects in the focus position with metal tube Newts.

Now- if you're a complete nutter add one of these 0.73x coma corrector reducers to your scope to make it F2.9!

NGC7000 in 159 seconds with a 6" F2.9 Newtonian

Sharper- but colour balance looks a bit on the green/yellow side to me?

Avoid the water based, acrylic type 'wood preservers' at all costs.