Managed to get out for an hour last night for my first bit of viewing with my recently acquired 200p dobsonian, had ten minutes of clear skies and a fantastic view of jupiter at about half six Wow, just wow, I can't believe how good that scope is, I could see both bands and the red spot (I think, it sort of popped out at me a couple of times if you know what I mean) as well as the overall colour differences, orange fading to white and then the both bands with bright white bands outside of them fading to orange again. I was using a Seben 25mm-8mm zoom eyepiece and can highly recommend these if